From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Dec 3 04:02:27 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B96FC63B68 for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 04:02:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua0-x22a.google.com (mail-ua0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 14CA7CA; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 04:02:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id 51so300810779uai.1; Fri, 02 Dec 2016 20:02:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=BsFuWhypMi48o2GhQG6dvXbijFC+1YIeS+cclMXOAyU=; b=N9KtUgPF+M3/AwaSffvLgCfHqXziidsRXAm78bku0CXhkN7xpzY+R3ChgM+ZHXXPSP ctxT822ipQrPfEAmmrFQ0/ldo60YZVVVUCK+XNg2crA/hqWXk7mcci/DK0aiMaQXWqH7 v7MleXx1+ZHr5x7Vw9+Vizm6/u99c0jjtkGBU83lLyozDm9hwwRL1kTUjlyMvrXZ+lAZ nrNGQSBjMmfEAs4qwVOjs6DApT8qjOQzGpVrJ0F8CRLB1dJQymcXNpwHjmuG9MRuOL2e dEROryZP/rzxwEThQVdbNJIrJDGzPgkyS009c1P7JTrXKo0AW/5RVYI3zuDZCJ7PSYGf gVsQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=BsFuWhypMi48o2GhQG6dvXbijFC+1YIeS+cclMXOAyU=; b=KaKbtSajLNWPHN5KE2F8EcM9M6j3e4+rHE6qSiZ/XPZ6c0YVRLWpaUM+m25TcjAoY8 K5p+yNaaycINsHjMLZQkTDuVvNNh74xiMCIXsrxa6hKckuwalM3yrNzrRE8Ft4YC8MWZ Sf6DPO21wqF1G27EIX3BmBJSJQjWHbOAQT3j2c5ZzkFpuzlxWgFpmR099+7LW+EcpsZF bb9i3wmGyo5/R9wjt1480KfZCPOW4HxJL4Vb40XXgitFlUkwLjtoR70j/ud65E3Sj9WT dH58fg2Ho+GjnjS+dXF0cGBKCsQqcAuiN+7SwWpU2VRK/7AQmKN4HCFR/TWpdVgVginE BJFw== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC00sAW87tGY+6Qrp//1iAsojg864kZQO1yeVuqpwytnjuCUte9zsG/hXPnuXX3dMHqr3Hk4rO1itmKixrg== X-Received: by 10.159.32.133 with SMTP id 5mr34947001uaa.145.1480737746128; Fri, 02 Dec 2016 20:02:26 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: kob6558@gmail.com Received: by 10.103.106.66 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 20:02:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20161203015938.GE44284@eureka.lemis.com> References: <20161203015938.GE44284@eureka.lemis.com> From: Kevin Oberman Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 20:02:25 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: hgv8UbCOiuXNt7-LJ4NVT968q8g Message-ID: Subject: Re: FOCAL To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" Cc: Dave Horsfall , FreeBSD Ports Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2016 04:02:27 -0000 On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 5:59 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Saturday, 3 December 2016 at 11:40:36 +1100, Dave Horsfall wrote: > > Be there an implementation of FOCAL? I have a hankering to get back to > my > > early programming days :-) > > Heh. I have a paper tape from my first year at uni somewhere in the > mess on my desk. It's been there for at least 10 years, and it's > short enough for it to be practical to read it in by eye, but I > haven't got more than a third of the way through. It's in FOCAL-69, > and does some world-shattering calculations like mean and standard > deviation. It would be fun to run it again--once. > > Greg > Wow! Have not thought of FOCAL in years. Used to write a bit both when in college and, using FOCAL-11, in my early years at LLNL. Unlike FOCAL on a PDP-8, FOCAL-11 ran on top of DOS-11. (No relation to Microsoft DOS.) The PDP-8L was the only solid state computer in the lab. All of the others still had vacuum tubes and drum memory, though the Univac Athena had both drum and core. In college I wrote a simple craps game and, it it caught you trying to cheat, it zeroed your account and gave you the finger on the ASR-33. My computer logic prof (and department head) saw that trivial ASCII art and chewed me a new one for putting code to generate that gesture on a school computer. That was about 45 years ago. Memories! -- Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683