From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Aug 21 08:37:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA27997 for chat-outgoing; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 08:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from skiddaw.elsevier.co.uk (root@skiddaw.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.60]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA27992 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 08:37:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by skiddaw.elsevier.co.uk (8.6.13/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA14213 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 16:35:26 +0100 Received: from tees.elsevier.co.uk (actually host tees) by snowdon with SMTP (PP); Wed, 21 Aug 1996 16:35:09 +0100 Received: (from dpr@localhost) by tees.elsevier.co.uk (8.6.13/8.6.12) id QAA01673; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 16:34:17 +0100 To: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw vs ipfilter? References: <199608152149.OAA01513@phaeton.artisoft.com> From: Paul Richards Date: 21 Aug 1996 16:34:16 +0100 In-Reply-To: Terry Lambert's message of Thu, 15 Aug 1996 14:49:35 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <57enl0u4xz.fsf@elsevier.co.uk> Lines: 24 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.30 Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert writes: > > > > (do we have to continue to embaress ourselves about how well we know how > > > to program in real BASIC ?:-) > > > > Didn't all real hackers start out by programming TRS-80's and Apple IIe's > > back in '78/'79? I've still got some of my Applesoft and 6502 programs. > > I just don't have a computer to run them on. > > Commodore PET and Ohio Scientific computers with chicklet keyboards and > no more than 4k of RAM, and only those after their South-West Technical > Products 6800's with S100 busses finally gave up the ghost. I started out on Commodore PET's too, or it's sister the CBM. Then got a BBC computer, really nice machine that, still got it gathering dust in a cupboard somewhere. -- Paul Richards. Originative Solutions Ltd. (Netcraft Ltd. contractor) Elsevier Science TIS online journal project. Email: p.richards@elsevier.co.uk Phone: 0370 462071 (Mobile), +44 (0)1865 843155