From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 21 08:25:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 846E0FDA; Fri, 21 Nov 2014 08:25:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gromit.grondar.org (grandfather.grondar.org [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c20:0:2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FA73B99; Fri, 21 Nov 2014 08:25:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [2001:470:9174:1:c160:6db5:dfbd:9b92] by gromit.grondar.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.84 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1XrjWd-000McC-Ge; Fri, 21 Nov 2014 08:25:08 +0000 Subject: Re: svn commit: r274739 - head/sys/mips/conf Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.1 \(1993\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: Mark R V Murray In-Reply-To: <20141120084832.GE24601@funkthat.com> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 08:25:06 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <201411200552.sAK5qnXP063073@svn.freebsd.org> <20141120084832.GE24601@funkthat.com> To: John-Mark Gurney X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1993) X-SA-Score: -1.0 Cc: arch@freebsd.org, Adrian Chadd X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 08:25:10 -0000 > On 20 Nov 2014, at 08:48, John-Mark Gurney wrote: >=20 > Should we make random standard now? We don't live in the 90's = anymore, > and a system really can't function w/o randomness anymore=E2=80=A6 There is a case to be made for making it default in all/most kernel configs. I disagree on making it compulsory in all cases, as very small embedded systems can easily argue for not having it. > I'm fine w/ making the various random mixers options, but the core > random infrastructure and /dev/u?random should be standard now=E2=80=A6 There is some compulsory infrastructure; this gets you the =E2=80=9Cdummy=E2= =80=9D driver which just blocks and never delivers anything. M --=20 Mark R V Murray