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Grimes" CC: Enji Cooper , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Michael Tuexen , "koobs@freebsd.org" , Bryan Drewery From: Cy Schubert Message-ID: <7FBAA185-655B-41D4-A92D-2E7FAE2A63CE@cschubert.com> X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfDxgw9QHRcunSlcCz9erFxkm7C01XPLI4sLZweVvXgvviu7lZBIDPPTLMF0RuAVxu5qBarJ0aYw+En6/UVu4tgYHkYqyNhBR7Iy+F6qYfFNEHgzdKaXV IbQDmArhPD2oFA4kRKEKAbu+wZSlBaemZwkvhTWmejBgoxunuHB7YrtWnGebAUXvHcQMKSxCuPXFNCbiqPmhobj/X3RIE1SGT6KNtRs2hTadQihy+jPkdtF+ 5QWLPdcFCzMHA4hN58GR0b9vgHGcQoAXfr9rvi7cAm2G6YGIUOAa3lwHnu4uGmcxrSxyNuJvugbgGsCHYSOiKr6XPsjyApqIDOe6rztKgNZiSKciB/DQ4H9s 0jcjiuvRJxnt8tMEVPUOoJnpX8hhyg== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: C7B097142F X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.68 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE(-2.53)[ip: (-6.80), ipnet: 64.59.128.0/20(-3.25), asn: 6327(-2.52), country: CA(-0.09)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: spqr.komquats.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.94)[-0.944,0]; RCPT_COUNT_SEVEN(0.00)[7]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[17.125.67.70.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.11,233.154.66.70.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.11]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6327, ipnet:64.59.128.0/20, country:CA]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[9.134.59.64.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2019 17:25:29 -0000 On June 19, 2019 9:53:12 AM PDT, Ian Lepore wrote: >On Wed, 2019-06-19 at 09:30 -0700, Rodney W=2E Grimes wrote: >> > In message < >> > fffbe5d47e3515c960429ab416bf2ba234f9671d=2Ecamel@freebsd=2Eorg> >> > , Ian Le >> > pore writes: >> > > On Tue, 2019-06-18 at 07:01 -0700, Enji Cooper wrote: >> > > > > On Jun 18, 2019, at 06:59, Enji Cooper > > > > > > >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > >=20 >> > > > >=20 >> > > > > > On Jun 18, 2019, at 06:53, Ian Lepore >> > > > > > wrote: >> > > > >=20 >> > > > > =2E=2E=2E >> > > > >=20 >> > > > > > Last Saturday, Bryan (cc'd) made a series of commits >> > > > > > (r349061-69)=20 >> > > > > > that >> > > > > > were all somehow related to dependency processing in the >> > > > > > build=2E I >> > > > > > don't know the details, just remember seeing some commits >> > > > > > about >> > > > > > that=2E >> > > > >=20 >> > > > > I remember that as well=2E This might have changed the >> > > > > dependency >> > > > > order subtly, introducing a race=2E >> > > > >=20 >> > > > > The headers might not be built in all cases in time now=2E >> > > > >=20 >> > > > > Thanks, >> > > > > -Enji >> > > > >=20 >> > > > > PS This is one of the reasons why I wasn???t quick to >> > > > > discount Peter >> > > > > Jeremy???s reported build issue=2E >> > > >=20 >> > > > Correction: I meant Julian Stacey=2E >> > >=20 >> > > Julian Stacey has 3 problems: >> > >=20 >> > > 1=2E Missing opt_cam=2Eh >> > > 2=2E Missing yacc=2Eh >> > > 3=2E A years-long inability to report a problem without hurling >> > > personal >> > > insults at the project and everyone associated with it=2E >> > >=20 >> > > Because of #3, I don't much care about 1 and 2=2E >> >=20 >> > Bingo! My point exactly! >>=20 >> You can't understand the frustration of 25 years of >> having system build breakage on a pretty regular basis >> as a trigger point for anger? >>=20 > >I understand how inappropriate it is for a project member to condone or >excuse the verbal abuse of other project members=2E > >Somone with anger management problems likely shouldn't be running >current, where a certain amount of short-term breakage is normal and >expected=2E > >-- Ian I do not think what you said was abusive=2E As a matter of fact you said w= hat I had said in a previous email, just more directly than I chose to say = it=2E Having to deal with a difficult person or two in real life personally, som= etimes the only answer is "do it yourself=2E" A little respect goes a long way=2E --=20 Pardon the typos and autocorrect, small keyboard in use=2E Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: http://www=2EFreeBSD=2Eorg The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few=2E