From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Oct 28 17:55: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5231814E61 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 17:54:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA13725; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 17:54:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 17:54:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199910290054.RAA13725@apollo.backplane.com> To: Michael Beckmann Cc: Scott Hess , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Limitations in FreeBSD References: <19991029011348.B2757@apfel.de> <199910282253.PAA02302@dingo.cdrom.com> <19991029020253.A3005@apfel.de> <15f901bf219e$20df55c0$1e80000a@avantgo.com> <19991029024742.B3005@apfel.de> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :> Urk! I don't mean to be insulting, but the notion that you would roll :> _any_ solution out for a problem of this size based on word of mouth freaks :> the crap out of me. : :Hey ! You guys seem to have pretty strict opinions about how to solve problems. :Right now I am just investigating the options and asking for the properties of :this FreeBSD OS (where news is not the only reason for finding out about them). : :> If you have a genuine need for 500Gig of news spool, : :This is roughly 10 days of newsfeed, btw. This is roughly 20 days of newsfeed if one take the porn, warez, and binaries groups, which contain mostly junk, and try to hold onto them for the full expiration time. If the person setting up the system were to spend a little time filtering out the junk and/or adjusting the expiration it is fairly easy to get away with much smaller spools and an order of magnitude cheaper system. At BEST I wound up using around a 40G spool. If the person isn't willing to filter he pretty much deserves all the pain he creates for himself :-(. Roughly speaking, less then 1% of a typical userbase even bothers to read usenet news. In anycase... I don't know what INN is doing these days, but I do know that lots of people run large spools with it on 32 bit machines just fine. Most of the assumptions I've heard so far are absurd for *any* UNIX box, not just an intel box. INN is a heavy-weight system but it doesn't eat hundreds of file descriptors per nnrpd process. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message