From owner-freebsd-security Tue Aug 27 5:26:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A151637B400 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 05:26:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from heresy.dreamflow.nl (heresy.dreamflow.nl [62.58.36.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 236BF43E7B for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 05:26:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bart@dreamflow.nl) Received: (qmail 36850 invoked by uid 1000); 27 Aug 2002 12:26:23 -0000 Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 14:26:23 +0200 From: Bart Matthaei To: Mark Murray Cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Administrivia: Discussion - Making this list subscriber-only Message-ID: <20020827122623.GC34393@heresy.dreamflow.nl> References: <200208271049.g7RAnrl5019226@grimreaper.grondar.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200208271049.g7RAnrl5019226@grimreaper.grondar.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 11:49:53AM +0100, Mark Murray wrote: > Hello Security list members > > I got an overwhelmingly positive (off-list, thanks!) response to > my complaint that this list's signal-to-noise ratio was terrible. > > Some folks are still replying to spam on list, but the noise figure > has dropped significantly. Thank you! > > I would very much like to make this list subscriber-only. This will > cut down dramatically on spam and the inevitable misdirected > 'subscribe' postings. The downside is that folks will not be able > to reply to the list if they receive it via a list redirector (IE > if a corporate role account/list-alias has been used to subscribe). > In this case, those folks would become read-only members (which may > in some cases be OK). Other folks would need to subscribe to the > list with their 'real' email address. I dissagree with the idea of making this list subscriber-only. There are people who mail to this list with a single question, and without subscribing to the list. If you make this list subscriber-only, you are forcing these people to subscribe. I personally hate it when I have to subscribe to a list when I only have one single report or question. If you want to get rid of spam, just get a spamfilter, and stop complaining, because the actual discussion about spam is more annoying than the spam itself. Cheers, Bart -- Bart Matthaei bart@dreamflow.nl Things fall down. People look up. And when it rains, it pours. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message