From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Jan 26 1:20:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BBD937B417 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 01:20:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool0040.cvx40-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([216.244.42.40] helo=mindspring.com) by gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16UP0Q-0005Wv-00; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 01:20:14 -0800 Message-ID: <3C5274C9.32C261AC@mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 01:20:09 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Schultz Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , Brett Glass , chip , "f.johan.beisser" , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why dual boot? References: <20020123114658.A514@lpt.ens.fr> <20020123223104.SM01952@there> <3C4FBE5C.2AE8C65@mindspring.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20020124213809.00e6e5d0@localhost> <20020125131659.GB7374@hades.hell.gr> <3C51CD33.4E69B204@mindspring.com> <20020125143213.A70659@HAL9000.wox.org> <3C51E7ED.25FF34BA@mindspring.com> <20020125190153.A71616@HAL9000.wox.org> <3C5269A3.2FAB735B@mindspring.com> <20020126005722.A77604@HAL9000.wox.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David Schultz wrote: > Compaq used to ship their cheaper desktop systems with a CD that > writes a drive image instead of a Windows CD. Thus, you could delete > a single system file and have to wipe everything out, and you couldn't > move Windows to a larger disk. It pissed the hell out of me. It is practically a requirement for Windows XP and other non-FAT based OSs, which don't have tools that can run in DOS mode to create an FS of that type, or write contents to that FS type. The Sony VAIO "System Recovery" and "Application Recovery" CDROMs for Windows up through ME are perhaps the best I've ever seen. I don't know what Sony does with XP, since I don't have a Sony system that ships with XP, and wouldn't have any XP systems at all, if it weren't for licensing and cost considerations for test equipment. The Sony VAIO system recovery CDROM permits recovery of deleted files without loss of information, and recovery of the OS in a user created partition (after repartitioning for installation of another OS, and subsequent loss of the Windows partition to the vagraies of whatever), or full image-blasting of the disk (partition table and all). The Application recovery CDROMs can be used to incrementally recover damaged applications, install optional applications and other data, or reinstall from scratch. I like the Sony VAIO recovery procedures. Though I rather expect we are just as screwed on Windows XP recovery with Sony supplied recovery media (I would be happy to hear differently). > > If you're interested: the !@#$@%! "Norton Ghost" just > > writes the disk, without writing the partition table, > > unless the partition table isn't there already. > > It works well for what it was designed to do, namely, making (almost) > exact clones of OS installations. Which is great if you are installing a system for the first time at a factory, or mass producing desktop setups in an IT department at a company, but much less great if what you are doing is recovering from a trashed Windows system file, and don't want to trash the data on your Windows partition (e.g. .DOC files you created after you bought the machine, before you broke it), and incredibly less great if you've already repartitioned and installed FreeBSD or Linux, and have data there, as well. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message