Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2019 09:47:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> To: Kristof Provost <kp@freebsd.org> Cc: rgrimes@freebsd.org, "Andrey V. Elsukov" <bu7cher@yandex.ru>, Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>, freebsd-pf@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r345760 - in head: contrib/pf sys/netpfil/pf sbin/pfctl Message-ID: <201904011647.x31GlWgv016223@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> In-Reply-To: <FA6F7C1D-7B2D-4B74-A6E9-8C1112DAEEAD@FreeBSD.org>
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> On 1 Apr 2019, at 15:48, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > [ Charset UTF-8 unsupported, converting... ] > >> On 01.04.2019 16:30, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > >> It seems it is too late: > >> https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=155409489427092&w=2 > > > > I am wondering on the above as it has a date of: > > Date: 2019-04-01 5:01:03 > > > > which would be in line with Kristof's joke. > > > Yes, OpenBSD are clearly joking as well. :-) > >> http://mail-index.netbsd.org/tech-kern/2019/03/29/msg024883.html > > This is inline with what is being proposed here, NetBSD has > > old rotted code that needs updated. > > [Disclaimer: I do not speak for NetBSD, and based this on my reading of > that thread] > > NetBSD however are serious. > Their situation is slightly different, in that their primary reason is > that they don?t have a maintainer for their pf version and it?s > suffering from significant bitrot. > > Our situation is somewhat better. Our pf is maintained and does get bug > fixes and improvements. Not as many as I?d like, but there?s > something. I know for a fact that there is desire, with financials avaliable, to get our code updated. I do not think there is any specific criteria desired, other than moved closer to the OpenBSD version. > > Rather than do that work > > twice, do it 1.5 times (implementing the same technology in > > 2 OS's should be less work than doing it twice.) > > > > I believe there is grant money avaliable from a non Foundation > > source that could be used to do this work. > > > I?m not at all opposed to updating our pf, but there are a few > obstacles (technical: performance, syntax and vimage. Practical: this is > a lot of work). If people are interested in that discussion I?d > propose someone start a new thread on freebsd-pf@, and I?ll expand on > what I think the problems are and what needs to be done. I have forwarded this mail onto that list, including those who did respond: Andrey V. Elsukov <bu7cher@yandex.ru>, Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com> to the commit, with my comments here. > I?d also be interested in knowing what people are looking for from an > updated pf in FreeBSD. What are the improvements in OpenBSD that you?d > really like to see in FreeBSD? I need to bring the person I spoke with at IETF/104 into this discussion, they can provide additional details. Sadly I wrote down the wrong email address, but have resources to get the right one just going to take me a day. > Regards, > Kristof -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org
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