From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 15 14:33:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA19766 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:33:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp03.primenet.com (daemon@smtp03.primenet.com [206.165.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA19754 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:33:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr08.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp03.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA29039; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:32:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr08.primenet.com(206.165.6.208) via SMTP by smtp03.primenet.com, id smtpd029011; Wed Jul 15 14:32:41 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr08.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA20814; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:32:37 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199807152132.OAA20814@usr08.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Wrong comment in pmap_bootstrap() about virtual_avail? To: sthaug@nethelp.no Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 21:32:37 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3972.900489931@verdi.nethelp.no> from "sthaug@nethelp.no" at Jul 15, 98 10:05:31 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Maybe he's proting FreeBSD to the relatively high powered, yet > > very inexpensive MIPS chip based systems that are out there. > ... > > Still, are you aware that the "Cobalt" thin server platform, running > > MIPS Linux, has hardware about 1/3 as expensive as comparable Intel > > hardware? > > Just how inexpensive are we talking here? Where can we buy the stuff? You can by MIPS chips and smaple PC boards from MIPS, Inc.. As far as price, Nintendo machines run MIPS chips, and are under $200. Cobalt is a just a company using their own MIPS-based proprietary hardware and a Linux OS to sell, effectively, Linux PC's in blue cubic boxes. If you are interested in blue cubic boxes, they don't sell them seperately; you would be better of finding an old "Cubix" box with an 386 or 486, painting it blue, and running FreeBSD on it. 8-). Or you could always ort to the '030/'040 and paint an old "NeXT cube" blue... 8-) 8-). For an embedded system, non-Intel hardware is almost invariably cheaper. You could get "Cobalt" class SPARC hardware directly from Sun for resale for under $1000 for quantity, for example, and that's ssuming expensive Sun cases and paying for their board design instead of your own, and giving them margin on everything including the hard disk, instead of just on the processor and necessary support chips. You could probably do a JAVA-chip based system even cheaper (JAVA rings go for $50), but of course it would suck because it wouldn't be capable of running BSD. 8^p. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message