From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 8 6:43:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw.caamora.com.au (jonath5.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.41.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AE2C14F31; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 06:43:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@gw.caamora.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by gw.caamora.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA05356; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 23:43:25 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Message-ID: <19991008234325.A5341@caamora.com.au> Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 23:43:25 +1000 From: jonathan michaels To: Mike Pritchard , Michael Lucas Cc: dave@allunix.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Roasting Newbies Mail-Followup-To: Mike Pritchard , Michael Lucas , dave@allunix.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199910071346.NAA19666@web1.aps-services.com> <199910072120.RAA25826@blackhelicopters.org> <19991008053729.C44391@mpp.pro-ns.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19991008053729.C44391@mpp.pro-ns.net>; from Mike Pritchard on Fri, Oct 08, 1999 at 05:37:29AM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD gw.caamora.com.au 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 X-Mood: i'm alive, if it counts Organisation: Caamora, PO Box 144, Rosebery NSW 1445 Australia Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Oct 08, 1999 at 05:37:29AM -0500, Mike Pritchard wrote: > On Thu, Oct 07, 1999 at 05:20:45PM -0400, Michael Lucas wrote: > > IMHO, tensions on the FreeBSD lists are running at their greatest > > level since... oh, I'd say mid-96, when I first subscribed to > > -questions. > > > > If a "FreeBSD newbies info page" will help, then I'm all for it. I > > don't see what sort of "ramifications" it could have, other than to > > (perhaps) reduce some of the stress all around. > > If we add a "newusers" web document, then how about 1 or 2 "newusers" > on-line manual pages as well. I'm thinking something along the lines > of newusers.7 (misc documentation), and newusers.8 (sys admin docs). > We can setup the default install /etc/motd to mention these documents > in the hope that they will be read. And maybe mention them elsewhere > in some of the install documentation, and other places. > > If someone gives me the text, I'll be sure that it gets converted > to our current man page style somehow (either by me, or someone > I con...err, convince to do it :-). I'm sure given quality text, > we can find someone to convert it to docbook format, and I can > probably do that, too, if no one else steps up to do that. see what sue blake has produced and posts regularly, every saterday from memory in, for and the education of how beginners, and where they can find help. it is posted to freebsd-newbies, which sue does a good job moderating. regards jonathan -- =============================================================================== Jonathan Michaels PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 Australia =========================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message