From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 14 17:12:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA29440 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:12:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA29370 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:12:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA24482; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:09:35 -0800 (PST) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199611150109.RAA24482@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: Decision in Router Purchase In-Reply-To: from Veggy Vinny at "Nov 14, 96 01:14:32 pm" To: richardc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (Veggy Vinny) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:09:35 -0800 (PST) Cc: jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com, dg@root.com, jdd@vbc.net, jhay@mikom.csir.co.za, chad@gaianet.net, isp@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Joe Greco wrote: > > > > You're probably right since I asked him if a 10MBps or 10/100Mbps > > > card would be better for the ethernet from the machine and he said, the > > > max is 3MBps, 1.544MBps in/1.544MBps out full deplex. > > > > Remember that an Ethernet starts getting rather crowded around that point > > (at least if you believe in low latency and high performance, like I do) > > which means that you do not want tons of other traffic on such a wire. > > > > You might want to get the 10/100 card given that the current prices are > > really not that far apart, and it will not limit you in the future. > > We are getting the SMC 10/100 cards but reading the recent FreeBSD > mailing lists from Rod and others, it seems like there is currently a > problem with the drivers with the newer chips used on these cards so until > the cards are supported, then we need to either wait or just go try to > look for cards with the older chip ending with DST. You mis-interpretted my posting. The SMC9332DST work, if you can find units (and yes, I have your other email, but can't respond about product status until I call into the master distributor in the morning and see how many are left), the problem is SMC discontiuned the SMC9332DST and units are hard to find. I have some, but they are commited to orders. I will see about getting more of them in the morning. ( A heck, it wasn't as late as I thought. I tied up 5 units for you, give me a call and we can discuss the order). SMC did the RIGHT thing, they came out with a new model SMC9332BDT when they changed to the PHY/MII interface, these cards are known not to work with the current code in FreeBSD (all branches). Some one has posted a butchering note of the driver that made it work for them. David Greenman and myself took a quick look at the code and see what can be done quickly to fix several of the cards (including the SMC9332BDT) and he is working on this presently. My SMC9332BDT evaluation unit just arrived this afternoon and should be in David's hands this evening. Matt Thomas has already posted that he has it working with BSDI, and pointed out the lacking functionality in FreeBSD that is makeing it hard for him to tranplant the code. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation, Inc. Reliable computers for FreeBSD