From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 16 14:41:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2D8937B404 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 14:41:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.halplant.com (ip68-98-167-210.nv.nv.cox.net [68.98.167.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B9A543FA3 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 14:40:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from A.J.Caines@halplant.com) Received: by mail.halplant.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5F94BD9; Fri, 16 May 2003 17:40:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 17:40:57 -0400 From: Andrew J Caines To: stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030516214057.GB33461@hal9000.halplant.com> Mail-Followup-To: stable@freebsd.org References: <200305151602.20378.wes@softweyr.com> <1053039904.76608.2.camel@rushlight.kf8nh.apk.net> <200305160049.11423.wes@softweyr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200305160049.11423.wes@softweyr.com> Organization: H.A.L. Plant X-PGP-Fingerprint: C59A 2F74 1139 9432 B457 0B61 DDF2 AA61 67C3 18A1 X-Powered-by: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE X-URL: http://halplant.com:88/ X-Yahoo-Profile: AJ_Z0 Importance: Normal User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: Re: Perl version in -STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Andrew J Caines List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 21:41:01 -0000 > On Thursday 15 May 2003 16:05, Brandon S. Allbery wrote: > > On Thu, 2003-05-15 at 19:02, Wes Peters wrote: > > > Has anyone run a recent -STABLE with Perl 5.6.1 in place of the > > > system Perl? ... > > I've been doing that (and more recently 5.8.0) via "use.perl port" on > > -STABLE for a while now; no problems. Likewise for months with 5.6.1 and "use.perl port" on my up-to-date -STABLE box. No observed problems with the system or any of my ports [currently 245] which have been updated since then. Wes Peters said... > We've considered jumping straight to 5.8.0; your input helps make that > decision. As for the "bleeding edge vs. stable" argument, I'd consider perl in the middle ground between bleeding edge and obsolescence. Evidence reported here shows that obsolescence is setting in and that 5.8 substantially `works', so I'd say it's much nearer the latter than the former. If a perl update in src isn't too hard and doesn't cause any significant problems which can't be fixed in a reasonable time, then I'm in favour of an update to whatever most recent version works well (5.8, apparently). Also worth considering is the time spent (wasted) fixing perl code in ports to work with the default perl. My recent port of mail/pflogstats required such attention. This effort would be better spent of the few things which don't work perfectly with a more current version. Just because RELENG_4 is nearing its end as reigning STABLE doesn't mean it won't be used for many years to come, so it can be argued that these kind of updates are needed more now than ever. -Andrew- -- _______________________________________________________________________ | -Andrew J. Caines- Unix Systems Engineer A.J.Caines@halplant.com | | "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary | | safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin, 1759 |