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Date:      Sat, 7 Jun 2014 09:21:42 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        Julian Elischer <julian@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org>, src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, Eitan Adler <eadler@freebsd.org>, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, "Simon J. Gerraty" <sjg@juniper.net>, svn-src-head@freebsd.org, "Drewery, Bryan" <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r266760 - head/contrib/bmake
Message-ID:  <8AF17138-4C5B-4298-829E-CC2B98178DAC@gmail.com>
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On Jun 4, 2014, at 9:18 PM, Julian Elischer <julian@FreeBSD.org> wrote:

> On 6/4/14, 11:19 PM, Drewery, Bryan wrote:
>> On 6/4/14, 2:26 AM, Eitan Adler wrote:
>>> On 2 June 2014 23:35, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Jun 02, 2014 at 09:46:38PM -0700, Simon J. Gerraty wrote:
>>>>>=20
>>>>> On Mon, 2 Jun 2014 19:58:31 -0500, Bryan Drewery writes:
>>>>>> Not sure if anyone cares, but this change breaks all ports tree
>>>>>> checkouts from before 2014-05-05 on src head with this revision.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Yes, an older ports tree would need an older bmake (or fmake).
>>>>> Are we saying ports is *not* ready for that hack to be removed?
>>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> IMHO it is, just people has to be aware of that :)
>>>=20
>>> ports-announce@ is the correct location for this announcement :)
>>>=20
>>=20
>> I think that would just confuse people. I don't think this is worthy =
of such a big announcement. I can write up something to current@ and =
ports@ though. It's really only an issue if you are trying to use older =
ports tree and why would you anyway in most cases?
>>=20
> We have a scenario where we check out a ports tree at one revision, =
but then need to slide parts of it back and forth to get to a specific =
revision of a port that we need. We can not affort to re-verrify every =
port revision every month, so it stays at an old revision generally but =
individual ports my upgrade if there is a security risk or may remain on =
anold revision if a newer version breaks thins for us. (it happens).
>=20
> If that breaks we will not be happy

I plan on reverting this because it is premature.  Too many people have =
their own forked ports trees that haven=92t necessarily been updated. =
The update is simple, true enough, but it is surprising. There=92s no =
harm in leaving that code there for a while longer since it is opt-in =
now. I may add a warning to highlight its use...

Warner=



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