From owner-svn-src-head@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 10 08:32:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2792C106564A; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 08:32:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6E18FC19; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 08:32:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from phobos.local (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by pooker.samsco.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n6A8VvGu023259; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 02:31:57 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <4A56FC7C.8060107@samsco.org> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 02:31:56 -0600 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.13) Gecko/20080313 SeaMonkey/1.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Poul-Henning Kamp References: <37131.1247214217@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: <37131.1247214217@critter.freebsd.dk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on pooker.samsco.org Cc: svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org, svn-src-all@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, Scott Long Subject: Re: svn commit: r195534 - in head: etc/mtree include lib/libcam sbin/camcontrol share/man/man4 sys/cam sys/cam/ata sys/cam/scsi sys/conf sys/dev/advansys sys/dev/ahci sys/dev/aic7xxx sys/dev/amd sys/de... X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 08:32:04 -0000 Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <200907100818.n6A8I8p1011853@svn.freebsd.org>, Scott Long writes: > >> ATA drives are accessed via 'ada' device nodes. > > It there a particular good reason why we insist on making this > silly mistake every five years ? > > I am pretty sure you were around when Justin won friends by renaming > the SCSI disk devices ? > 1. I clearly stated that the name is experimental and that a change in the future is possible. 2. If the name does change, and if it changes to either 'ad' or 'da', it can't happen until the newbus stuff is done first. I desperately need help with that, btw, starting with removing the need for Giant from newbus. Contact myself and/or Warner for details. 3. Exposing driver name details as the primary handle for users is something that I disagree with, and I'd ultimately like to see every direct-access block device in the system be called 'disk'. Or "phk". Or "bde" for all I care =-) 4. While feelings may have been hurt 12 years ago, life did, in fact, go on. Scott