From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Oct 16 12:25:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA27965 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 12:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gateway.skipstone.com (root@GATEWAY.SKIPSTONE.COM [198.214.10.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA27958 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 12:25:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bugs.skipstone.com (bugs.skipstone.com [204.69.236.2]) by gateway.skipstone.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA17110; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:25:37 -0500 Received: from [204.69.236.50] (hotapplepie.skipstone.com [204.69.236.50]) by bugs.skipstone.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA17353; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:25:35 -0500 X-Sender: rkw@mail.dataplex.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:25:35 -0600 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" From: rkw@dataplex.net (Richard Wackerbarth) Subject: Re: IP bugs in FreeBSD 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Ah, there's nothing I love more watching a bunch of non-release >engineers endlessly debading the methodologies of release >engineering. :-) > >Guys, this ain't Burger King. You get it the release engineer's way >or not at all. ;-) And as one who has done release engineering for paying customers, I can tell you that your methodology is hurting your ability to be taken as a serious product rather than a hobbyist toy. I am at this moment sitting in a client's office listening to some of them argue that Linux is a better product to use AS A CORPORATE SERVER. Part of their argument is directly related to their perception of the lack of release testing. Now, I happen to think that you can easily choose FreeBSD systems that are superior. I would like to see that perception grow. Remember -- Image is everything.