From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 27 14:57:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.the-i-pa.com (mail.the-i-pa.com [151.201.71.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1C22D37B401 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 14:57:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wmoran@iowna.com) Received: (qmail 30777 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2001 22:05:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO geekland) (151.201.71.193) by mail.the-i-pa.com with SMTP; 27 Jun 2001 22:05:51 -0000 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 17:56:01 -0400 Message-ID: <01C0FF32.6D3966E0.wmoran@iowna.com> From: Bill Moran To: 'Juha Saarinen' Cc: "'mupi@Mknet.org'" , "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 17:56:00 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wednesday, June 27, 2001 5:30 PM, Juha Saarinen [SMTP:juha@saarinen.org] wrote: > On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Bill Moran wrote: > > > In a company, alpha testing is done by the developers or other > > employees of the company, > > Once Upon A Time this was true, but no longer. Viz. Microsoft's > "Technology Preview" editions of various pieces of software. Due to > lengthening development cycles, companies feel compelled to issue some > pretty raw code into the public eye, just to show that they're actually > doing something. The mindshare game I guess. True, but I guess it still just seems to me that "alpha" is a closed-source kinda word that doesn't fit in with any open-source type of development. Might just be my perception of the whole thing. > Anyway, code never gets out of the beta stage. ;-) I don't know. I mean, "beta" says to me, "we, as developers, can't find any problems, but this hasn't been tested in the real world yet." Whereas a "release" tag says "we've tested this under real world conditions and have not found any problems" I see where you're coming from with that statement, though. Especially open-source development, which is always under scrutiny for the purpose of improvement. > Oh, and could you please wrap your lines? Yeah ... I just realized that the only way to keep Outlook from mangling lines is to manually wrap. I'm working on site this week, far away from my comfortable FreeBSD desktop workstation :-( so I'm stuck with Outlook. I think I'll install mutt on one of the servers here and use it to get my email via ssh ... :-) Don't tell my boss. -Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message