From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 18:25:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE3716A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:25:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA5C43D48 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:25:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1109.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id CD5BB1C00096 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:25:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1109.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9A4531C00094 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:25:30 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050320182530632.9A4531C00094@mwinf1109.wanadoo.fr Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:25:30 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <906778535.20050320192530@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <372015099.20050320083658@wanadoo.fr> <199800316.20050320115601@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:25:32 -0000 Duo writes: > And, one stop shopping is not always the best course of action. In fact, > it's extremely limiting in alot of ways. Maybe, but that's the way a lot of organizations do it, and they have both good and bad reasons for doing it that way. > Another thing, Exchange may "have it all" as you say, but I say: the more > you overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the sink. True, but in large organizations you don't have a choice. > Exchange's many issues come from its bloated nature. Yes. So do its advantages. > I said it before, Ill say it again: I'll take 4 or 5 different OSS > services, that do the same job as Exchange any day. But you may not be the one making the decision. > I guarantee they will be more scalable, cheaper > TCO, and the developers will be far more receptive to my feedback than MS > ever will be. If they are reliable, adequate solutions ... why do you need developers? > And, the folks who buy into MS's embrace and extend are a dime a dozen. Exchange was a Microsoft invention, although it did adhere to certain standards. It implemented X.400 quite well (too bad nobody wanted X.400). > The original post in this thread, was about emulating an environment in > which to run exchange. And I gave the original answer, which is that Exchange doesn't run on anything but Windows servers, period. > ... that's been answered, you on the other hand, seem to me to be > border line trolling. It takes two to engage in debate. Nobody is obligated to reply to anything I say that he considers off-topic. > What's more, even if your assesment of Exchange (that its the "best") is > correct, how can there ever be anything better, if people dont move to > other products with potential? When and if another product that is superior comes along, people may well move to it. As far as I know, however, nobody is trying to compete with Exchange. It would be a billion-dollar undertaking with very high risk, and the market potential just doesn't justify that sort of adventure. > It's your attitude that perpetuates embrace and extend. My attitude is that of a longtime IT professional who has grown out of petty schoolyard crushes and hate campaigns. I run whatever does the job best. I don't care who wrote it. I recommend what I consider to be objectively best. > No, unfortunately, people outside IT, who have zero technical > understanding of the pandora's box they open, are making these choices. Yes, that's what I said. No technical understanding ... but no love or hate, either. -- Anthony