Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:23:49 -0500 From: Jerry <jerry@seibercom.net> To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updating Bash Message-ID: <20111117132349.7ac73ce5@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20111117174122.GA5072@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <20111117120447.73447103@scorpio> <20111117174122.GA5072@dragon.NUXI.org>
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On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:41:22 -0800 David O'Brien articulated: > On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 12:04:47PM -0500, Jerry wrote: > > I understand that there seems to be some reluctance to updating the > > "shells/bash" port until after the release of FreeBSD-9.0 at some > > future date. I am not sure I understand the reasoning behind this > > logic. If there is a problem with the newer version of Bash, > > currently 4.1.11 in ports with version 4.2.x currently available > > and the soon to be released version of 4.3 on the horizon; wouldn't > > it make more sense to find out if there is in fact a problem with > > this shell version prior to the release of FreeBSD-9.0? > > No, I do not think it would not make more sense. > > I really do not fully follow your argument. > > FreeBSD 9.0 is now in the Release Candidate stage. That means release > is imminent. How long do you think it would take to determine if > version 4.2 was suitable for burning on the 9.0-RELEASE DVD? If the > community does not find any issues with 4.2 (either due to the code > itself, or interactions with dependency ports and how we build things > in /usr/ports) within say... 5 days -- does that really mean major > problems won't be discovered in 10 days? Or the day after the > 9.0-RELEASE ISO images are posted? Ports are being updated everyday. I am assuming that they will be included on the 9.0-RELEASE DVD. Personally, I never use the CD/DVD for installation for other than the very basic system anyway. I prefer using the FTP method to download the very latest updates in the ports systems. It saves valuable time in not having to update a freshly installed system immediately after installing it (usually anyway). Furthermore, why would you consider finding a potential problem in Bash any different than finding a problem in KDE ten days or so after it has been release. In fact, I would say the odds of finding a problem in KDE would be a multitude of times greater than that of Bash. > To better help me understand your point of view, can you explain your > immediate need for version 4.2 vs. 4.1.11? What feature or bug fix > have you identified as majorly affecting you? > > > > Bash is a commonly used shell and I cannot see what the goal of > ^^^^^^^^^^ > an extremely > > > abstaining from updating it now is? It would certainly seem that if > > waiting for FBSD-9.0's release and subsequently finding out that the > > newer version of Bash fails would compound fixing the problem. > > What problem would be compounded? And how would it be compounded? The problem that I am attempting to elevate is the one where I install FreeBSD-9.0 with my shell of choice, Bash and then have to update it when you decide to update the port to a version that is presently all ready available. This doesn't fall into the catastrophic category but rather the annoyance category. In any case, since you have waited so long on updating to the 4.2 version, released on 13-Feb-2011, you might as well wait for the 4.3 version to be release. From what I have read, its release is imminent. > If the Bash using community truly wants version 4.2 in FreeBSD > 9.0-RELEASE I am willing to do the upgrade now -- but there needs > to be a super majority calling for its upgrade. > [Or a directive from Portsmgr] -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________
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