From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 21:31:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 219DF16A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:31:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from the-macgregors.org (82-33-59-105.cable.ubr06.stav.blueyonder.co.uk [82.33.59.105]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C7DC43D2D for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:31:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd.macgregor@blueyonder.co.uk) X-Urban-Legend: Mail headers contain urban legends Received: from fire (rob@fire.macgregor [192.168.32.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by the-macgregors.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iATLVrfT017388 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:31:53 GMT Message-Id: <200411292131.iATLVrfT017388@the-macgregors.org> From: "Rob MacGregor" To: Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:31:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <41AB9302.9050803@gmx.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcTWWfCVAWaTuQ+yTia/iCdtWJ4GsgAAFIqA X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Subject: RE: Beastie/ how about Mozilla? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:31:56 -0000 On Monday, November 29, 2004 9:22 PM, Michael Nottebrock <> unleashed the infinite monkeys and produced: > However, things start to become ugly when utterly irrelevant complaints > about > utterly irrelevant logos make committers disable USEFUL functionality, like > the boot-menu. We NEED the boot-menu, we don't need any kind of logo in it. > So > please, Scott, put back the menu and just delete the ascii art or at least > confirm that the menu is going to reappear in some way or the other. [AOL] Me too [/AOL] Seriously, the boot menu is rather useful - saves from having to remember how to get into "safe mode" when you've just hosed your system. Also makes disabling/enabling ACPI trivial. The logo is a "nice to have" IMO, purely because it's an eye catcher - I've had chats with people about FreeBSD after they see the logo, and ask what it is. A few even seemed interested enough to try out FreeBSD. I'd rather like the option of switching the logo on, but default to it off for those who find it offensive. I'll be honest and say that I don't understand people finding ASCII art such as the Beastie offensive, but everybody is entitled to their own opinion (yeah, even me :>). -- Rob | Oh my God! They killed init! You bastards!