From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 23 13:59:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7622C95 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:59:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-ie0-f176.google.com (mail-ie0-f176.google.com [209.85.223.176]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A44512953 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:59:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f176.google.com with SMTP id s9so835412iec.21 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 06:59:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:mime-version:content-type:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to; bh=oH9fxsHTsgyKyxiDvk/IxgApeVfXxHNlUlxHjMK+5Gw=; b=PfmYkSaOcqQsnwvzh2lrYo0Ln20epJe2Ecz5H4RQPo+3xsAINHm/J9Yj/qNJZtKoJc IiFK73UKpPRd6TY3DKvfFSUf5eFFuhF8+vpZt2qIUp79Rw0QFMrfk1JnQkWhw1HVdDvn VfebZOhwaSlOAZwoCiP4Hz1fq+AApLTZqjjSAHQY1DtuHBqazBpEPyTdIRVZerk2/+YT V2SJEMtTIprwUR1vVpuiK43JXMSm8KQFfiyfCw5jVml//7Y1nQ9roUOMXOBVFsvEELM4 HptMppoXH01NwVv6dD1IzliDTGKvE7ZxJWvk6URr4U9KGQOpsmpZSxJh4fFldoABt+90 tAQw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnE+rEoRQG32oGF8mwg+CjZvv1h4rjd6GqAYl0q9AzxBBhxpJJ2jyILb12MdxjwZfg4/PRl X-Received: by 10.50.131.170 with SMTP id on10mr1653417igb.12.1377266353233; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 06:59:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 53.imp.bsdimp.com (50-78-194-198-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net. [50.78.194.198]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id g5sm3078609igc.9.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 23 Aug 2013 06:59:12 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Warner Losh Subject: Re: GCC withdraw (was: Re: patch to add AES intrinsics to gcc) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 07:59:11 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <04A68472-3377-4E48-B7BE-DDBF070507B4@bsdimp.com> References: <20130822200902.GG94127@funkthat.com> <105E26EE-8471-49D3-AB57-FBE2779CF8D0@FreeBSD.org> <5217413A.9080105@passap.ru> <20130823111647.GT2951@home.opsec.eu> To: David Chisnall X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Cc: toolchain@FreeBSD.org, Kurt Jaeger , current@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:59:13 -0000 On Aug 23, 2013, at 7:54 AM, David Chisnall wrote: > On 23 Aug 2013, at 14:52, Warner Losh wrote: >> No. That breaks non x86 architecutres. gcc must remain in base for = now, or there's no bootstrap ability. Nobody has done the lifting to = cleanly integrate gcc as a port into buildworld, althogh Brooks' work = gets us most of the way there. >=20 > We've been using brooks' work to build the base system with an = out-of-tree toolchain for some time now... I'll have to try the native build part of the cycle then... Early = versions of the patch failed when you cross built the target, installed = the target, but wound up with no compilers to bootstrap the external = toolchains with to do native builds on the target. Warner