From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 17 14: 9: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 702FC37B479 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:08:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAHM61B04905; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:06:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66304.974496332@axl.fw.uunet.co.za> Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:06:43 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Sheldon Hearn Subject: Re: CURRENT is freezing again ... Cc: Alfred Perlstein Cc: Alfred Perlstein , "Steven E. Ames" , Soren Schmidt , Boris Popov , Valentin Chopov , current@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 17-Nov-00 Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > > On Fri, 17 Nov 2000 10:30:02 PST, John Baldwin wrote: > >> # sysctl -w debug.ktr_verbose=1 ; command_that_makes_my_machine_go_boom > > All very well and good once you've figured out which command makes your > machine go boom. Yes, I know. I didn't say the method was perfect. I find it frustrating as well. :-/ > But as I said, the locks I'm getting appear completely arbitrary. I'm > no hard-core hacker, but I'm not completely clueless when it comes to > isolating problems by way of deductive reasoning, and I'm stumped as to > what's causing these. I have no idea either. :( I can't magically fix them, and if I don't commit any of this stuff which works on my boxes as far as I can tell, then others won't test it and we won't make progress. If a buildworld usually triggers, then try writing a small C program that beats on a file in /tmp or /var, then start up 10 copies of it in a script that you run as your 'command_that_makes_my_machine_go_boom' to see if it works. :-P > Ciao, > Sheldon. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message