From nobody Sun Aug 4 18:20:45 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4WcSYY2pS8z5SmyM for ; Sun, 04 Aug 2024 18:20:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WcSYY1vplz4L99; Sun, 4 Aug 2024 18:20:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (unknown [192.168.55.3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 071D1892B6; Sun, 04 Aug 2024 18:20:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from phk@localhost) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.18.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 474IKjVV050602; Sun, 4 Aug 2024 18:20:45 GMT (envelope-from phk) Message-Id: <202408041820.474IKjVV050602@critter.freebsd.dk> To: Alan Somers cc: FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: A Demo of rust-in-base In-reply-to: From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" References: <202408041800.474I0HUM050473@critter.freebsd.dk> List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <50600.1722795645.1@critter.freebsd.dk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2024 18:20:45 +0000 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:1835, ipnet:130.225.0.0/16, country:EU] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4WcSYY1vplz4L99 -------- Alan Somers writes: > On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 12:00=3DE2=3D80=3DAFPM Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > If it weren't for my experience with CTL, I would say no. > But CTL stuff _cannot_ exist in the ports tree, since the ioctl interfac= e is unstable. > Similarly, stuff like the fusefs test suite can't exist in the ports tre= e, either. > It needs to be updated in lock-step with even minor kernel changes. How is that different from any other dependency management in ports ? -- = Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe = Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence= .