From owner-freebsd-sparc64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 3 23:24:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 034B23DB for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2015 23:24:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x233.google.com (mail-wg0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7BF6BE52 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2015 23:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id k14so47307100wgh.10 for ; Tue, 03 Feb 2015 15:24:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ALozlXJ2XS9zStNs6+kpDCD/E31FrqOUTsEz1JaSs1U=; b=UhEQNZ+dG4S1BpkZdi+NclwJtQF39hwUo2M5imcwcBQcLVZnrpk6rq5mD/J9xuSdcJ D3zTkFkwwu5pguoc3LE2M1U+/Ot6yjeC+FwsVwGBMikQvlGbBY/ENPqqOXdq+PmNqNlY 5pFfrheixbphKbA5iW3eWrdIxtxpy2nu0K956HR97Ek9phiiTCHBnbbwx2xxzA3EmWDQ GPKogSFvCZGtetkh0za5bMGGGpYbIz/pXft8TieXylHl0/xgZ/VYfagQrh2FzhN6KEte u1BDVye1T4jza3YZVrxsZueQxg0+x2XWWPnf4OIScik0kULpkJoVanBY78+nd5Ui5xVe PrEw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.200.68 with SMTP id jq4mr51801644wjc.128.1423005861030; Tue, 03 Feb 2015 15:24:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.27.93.143 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Feb 2015 15:24:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 18:24:20 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: reintro and pkgng aghastness From: Jacob Ritorto To: zenxyzzy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2015 23:24:23 -0000 really, you found a way to get to 1G? I thought only 512 was possible even with the weird tall sticks? On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 4:53 PM, zenxyzzy wrote: > I've also had luck putting the tall memory modules in an ultra 5, bumping > it to 1G ram. this did take me removing the (quite useless) floppy drive. > later, I got some X7039A's, which are low-profile versions. then I got > room to put another 3.5 inch drive in. > > --curt > > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Jacob Ritorto > wrote: > >> hmm, got the 2013 version on CD. It made it pretty far along but crashed >> and burned whilst loading the miniroot, or whatever they call it, to >> ramdisk. Memory's just too darn small. >> >> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:11 AM, zenxyzzy wrote: >> >>> I've had luck putting a sata to scsi adaptor on a DVD. should be able >>> to boot that. also, there's plenty of IDE dvd's around. you'd have to >>> open the ultra 5 up, though :-> >>> >>> --curt >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 8:51 PM, Jacob Ritorto >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Was just about to do that - I have it running on my T1000. But >>>> Martin's open source politics scared me a little a few months ago - he >>>> pulled everything OpenSXCE-related from the Internet and there was no >>>> recourse for the OpenSXCE user community. Maybe it's worth another go now >>>> that that appears to be sorted out. Unfortunately there's no way for me to >>>> load the 2014 bits on my Ultra5 as it's a dvd-only release :\ >>>> >>>> thx >>>> jake >>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 11:41 PM, zenxyzzy wrote: >>>> >>>>> There's another option that maybe you shouldn't ignore. >>>>> >>>>> OpenSxce. it's illumos plus a lot of hackery minus a lot of stupidity >>>>> for Sparc. I run it happily on my Sun Blade 1000. modern ZFS and >>>>> everything. >>>>> XVR-1000 support. root on SSD. fan control support - this clinched >>>>> it for me. neither linux or freebsd can turn the freaking fan off or down. >>>>> >>>>> plus source. >>>>> >>>>> plus, runs solaris 11 binaries from that "O"ther company. >>>>> >>>>> get it from opensxce.org >>>>> >>>>> --curt >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Jacob Ritorto >>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> I'd been away from FreeBSD for fifteen years, but I'm back and I'm >>>>>> pleased to announce that I'm using a computer that's from around the >>>>>> time I >>>>>> left FreeBSD :) It's a nice little Sun Ultra 5. Bone stock; doesn't >>>>>> even >>>>>> look like the case has ever been open. I recently had to stop using >>>>>> Solaris >>>>>> because they're became evil and Illumos because they're kind of not >>>>>> supporting this hardware anymore. I tried OpenBSD, but its >>>>>> applications >>>>>> just crashed. So here I pragmatically am. >>>>>> >>>>>> I like FreeBSD. I didn't leave out of disgust or anything; mostly >>>>>> just >>>>>> employment being all-Sun years ago. So it's cool revisiting it and >>>>>> seeing >>>>>> all the changes and all the stayed-the-sames. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm pretty exited about the new FreeBSD pkgng system. I had the >>>>>> extreme >>>>>> pleasure of using it whilst installing my SPARC last night (which, >>>>>> unfortunately, took from mid evening until around 4:30 in the >>>>>> morning. (I >>>>>> didn't have any cds or floppies at my disposal, so I instead built the >>>>>> network / diskless system installl on a virtualbox vm on my Mac and >>>>>> installed FreeBSD to the SPARC from there). Good old >>>>>> rarp/boopt/tftp/nfs! >>>>>> Reminded me of Sun Jumpstart! I was really pleased that this way of >>>>>> doing >>>>>> things still works on FreeBSD Truly a slick and smart design. >>>>>> >>>>>> But is it true that I can't actually use pkgng on my real computer >>>>>> because It's not a PC? >>>>>> >>>>>> I've been looking around the Internet for some hours, now, to no >>>>>> avail. >>>>>> Are there seriously *no* package repos for SPARC? >>>>>> >>>>>> If that's the case, I'd like to help remedy it. I've read around >>>>>> on how >>>>>> to contribute, but it seems none of what's out there pertains to >>>>>> pkgng for >>>>>> sparc. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please let me know if I'm understanding the situation right and how >>>>>> I can >>>>>> help, if help is wanted. I have a lot of SPARCs and they need a >>>>>> trustworthy operating system with software package system that >>>>>> doesn't have >>>>>> to be manually-wrought. >>>>>> >>>>>> "Oh, wow, it just finished its five-plus-hour ports build of freaking >>>>>> tmux!" >>>>>> jake >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-sparc64 >>>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >>>>>> freebsd-sparc64-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >