From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 07:03:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0408423 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2014 07:03:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from h2.funkthat.com (gate2.funkthat.com [208.87.223.18]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "funkthat.com", Issuer "funkthat.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6059FBF7 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2014 07:03:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from h2.funkthat.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by h2.funkthat.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id sB2739aA081311 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 1 Dec 2014 23:03:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmg@h2.funkthat.com) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by h2.funkthat.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id sB27386Y081310; Mon, 1 Dec 2014 23:03:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmg) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 23:03:08 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Garrett Cooper Subject: Re: I'd like to axe some drivers Message-ID: <20141202070308.GA99957@funkthat.com> Mail-Followup-To: Garrett Cooper , Joel Dahl , arch@freebsd.org References: <201411201631.27556.jhb@freebsd.org> <20141120220752.GI24601@funkthat.com> <20141121070207.GA19348@ymer.vnode.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 54BA 873B 6515 3F10 9E88 9322 9CB1 8F74 6D3F A396 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ X-Resume: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/resume.html X-TipJar: bitcoin:13Qmb6AeTgQecazTWph4XasEsP7nGRbAPE X-to-the-FBI-CIA-and-NSA: HI! HOW YA DOIN? can i haz chizburger? X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (h2.funkthat.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 01 Dec 2014 23:03:10 -0800 (PST) Cc: arch@freebsd.org, Joel Dahl X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 07:03:11 -0000 Garrett Cooper wrote this message on Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 23:15 -0800: > On Nov 20, 2014, at 23:02, Joel Dahl wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 02:07:52PM -0800, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > >> John Baldwin wrote this message on Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 16:31 -0500: > >>> I'm >< close to removing timeout/untimeout from the tree. As part of this I > >>> have updated several older drivers to use callout(9), but most of those > >>> patches were untested. Keeping old code around that no one uses does add > >>> future work as tree-wide API changes are made as well as things like locking > >>> (note that several of these drivers weren't locked until I recently changed > >>> them). To that end, here is my short list of things that I think we can bid > >>> farewell to in 11. Note that many of these are for ISA devices. > >>> > >> I'm fine w/ removing these... Should we do some house cleaning on > >> amd64's GENERIC too? > >> > >> amd64's GENERIC has a lot of ISA or 100Mbit ethernet cards that are > >> clearly not going to be used on these machines... > >> > >> My recommended list to remove: > >> ae, bfe, dc, fxp, hme?, pcn, rl, tx, vr, wb, xl, cs, ed, ex, ep, fe, > >> sn, xe > > > > I have amd64 machines with dc, fxp, pcn, rl and xl cards, so please don't remove > > these from GENERIC. I think I have bfe, vr and ed cards as well, but I have to > > check if they're in i386 or amd64 machines. > > Hi jhb/jmg, > I realize it?s not canonical/complete, but have you checked into BSDStats yet http://bsdstats.org/bt/devices/class/02/subclass/00.html ? I've tried to use that site, but sadly, does not make raw dmesg available, and w/o dmesg you can't easily get the data I need to make an informed decission... I believe I've tried to locate the maintainer to get this info, but was unable to... -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not."