From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 3 01:50:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C54B16A4CE for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2005 01:50:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out002.verizon.net (out002pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C7C43D3F for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2005 01:50:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.177.192]) by out002.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20050103015041.YPDD12052.out002.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2005 19:50:41 -0600 Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5A7011151A; Sun, 2 Jan 2005 20:50:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 20:50:40 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050103015040.GB10404@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41D895A4.5080100@codegurus.org> <41D89950.6000201@makeworld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <41D89950.6000201@makeworld.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out002.verizon.net from [68.163.177.192] at Sun, 2 Jan 2005 19:50:41 -0600 Subject: Re: freebsd training/certification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 01:50:42 -0000 On 01/02/05 07:01 PM, Chris sat at the `puter and typed: > Jayton Garnett wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I am wondering if there are any training/certification courses that I > > could take to become a FreeBSD guru? > > > > I have been using the OS for over a year now and have become very > > familiar with installation/configuration but would like to be able to > > add some sort of certification to my CV. > > Also how much of a "threat" is Solaris 10 x86 to FreeBSD and how come > > FreeBSD is not as popular as RH/Fedora? > > > > Thanks, > > Jayton Garnett > > ... come to think of it... This has to be a troll. Let's ponder this... Not nececelery, but yes, lettuce ponder . . . > The user states, "I have been using the OS for over a year now", Hmmm > seems to me that the user should KNOW the answer to, "and how come > FreeBSD is not as popular as RH/Fedora?" Obviously not a well thought out question, but I have to admit that I *don't* read *every* single thread on the list. In fact I probably read half - or less, of what comes to me through the list. I just don't have time. As far as why FreeBSD isn't as popular as RH/Fedora - wait, you really mean it isn't? :) > In addition - using it for a year now, this would make one think that > the user would have read the cert thread of not even a month ago. There are threads from yesterday I didn't read. I try to limit what I read to those that indicate (reasonably) from the subject that it is something I can answer, something related to a particular problem I'm working on, or something otherwise of interest. I've been using FreeBSD for almost 5 years, and my knowledge of it is still a drop in the bucket. > But let's really notice how the user unfolds the message. Starts off > nice, curious to a point and even showing that the user wishes to > possibly contribute to the foundation as a whole. Ah, yes. I was naieve once too. Thought I was the answer to all FreeBSDs problems :) Chalk it up to Newbie Zeal. Yeah, even though he's been using it for a year. Using it doesn't mean learning the internals, architecture, etc. I can install the OS, ports, set up a mail services, web services, ftp, firewall (more or less) and still I'm a newbie. FreeBSD is definitely my OS of preference, but I've lost a little of that zeal. > Once the user "softens" the audience, delivers the one-two punch tactic > of the evil creature known as a troll. However, this one don't look > like Shrek Not sure he's necessarily a troll, but I see your angle. > ... Just my comical way of looking at things. Most entertaining :) > -- > Best regards, > Chris Ditto Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org ԿԬ Pohl's law: Nothing is so good that somebody, somewhere, will not hate it.