From owner-freebsd-security Thu Nov 30 11:45:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.simphost.com (alpha.simphost.com [216.253.163.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B65337B401 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 11:45:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by alpha.simphost.com (Postfix, from userid 1060) id A30CB66B0A; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:45:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by alpha.simphost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BD3B62D03; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:45:07 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:45:07 -0700 (MST) From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" To: Chris Lucas Cc: Melon , freebsd-security@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 137/udp In-Reply-To: <3A26A029.7676CA2F@redshells.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org However, if you read my later statement, I said I agree that in this case, the evidence warrents the assumption that it was a kid that launched the udp sequence. However, there are alot of extremely bright kids out there who are good on computers, hence the New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com) article on it awhile ago. And, with that, I would like to end this portion of the discussion. ---- Jonathan M. Slivko Technical Support, CoreSync Corporation (http://www.coresync.net) Team Leader, SecureIRC Project (http://secureirc.sourceforge.net) Pager/Voicemail: (917) 388-5304 ---- On Thu, 30 Nov 2000, Chris Lucas wrote: > Hmm... I'm wondering where he said that 'all' teen computer users are stupid. > The way I read it was that he thought he was hacked. I think we all can agree > that the majority of hacking activity is coming from kids these days. Many > older "hackers" know better and would rather not end up in jail, hence the > reference to stupid kids. > > "Jonathan M. Slivko" wrote: > > > I know that my response to this e-mail isn't technical, but a comment on > > some of the language used on this mail that I am replying to. Apparently, > > someone out there seems to think that all the teen computer users out > > there are stupid kids. I fail to agree with you, even though I am a > > "stupid kid" to put it in your words, even though I am 18 years old. So, I > > personally take offense at that statement and would request that you > > refrain from using such derogative statements in further e-mails on this > > issue. This is a constructive e-mail list, and not a mail list where > > people express their opinions on what other people, children no less > > do. > > > > However, I do have to agree with you on one point, the evidence that you > > have shown us appears to be consistent with the workings of an > > inexperienced user, not neccessarily a child, mind you. But, that is > > besides the point. I would have expected better language from a network > > administrator, being that I am one myself, for a rather large company. If > > you would like to take this matter up further, please don't hesitate to > > E-Mail me personally. My E-Mail address is listed on the bottom of this > > E-Mail. Thank You for your time. > > > > -- Jonathan M. Slivko > > > > ---- > > Jonathan M. Slivko > > Technical Support, CoreSync Corporation (http://www.coresync.net) > > Team Leader, SecureIRC Project (http://secureirc.sourceforge.net) > > Pager/Voicemail: (917) 388-5304 > > ---- > > > > On Fri, 1 Dec 2000, Melon wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > All network administrator may always see rejected 137/udp packet... > > > > > > I want to know how these udp packets are occured? > > > I expect some stupid kids attacked me. However, is there any exception? > > > > > > Someone sent only 3 137/udp packets to specific IP address. In general, > > > these stupid does not sent to specific IP address, sent to all IP > > > addresses I have. > > > > > > Any suggestions appreciated. > > > > > > - Melon > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message