From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 7 12:55:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9988D37B401; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 12:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 385CA43E4A; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 12:55:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0388.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.193.133] helo=mindspring.com) by swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17ydy9-0004Th-00; Mon, 07 Oct 2002 12:55:09 -0700 Message-ID: <3DA1E657.10BAD270@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 12:53:59 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Joel M. Baldwin" Cc: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD current users Subject: Re: Do we still need portmap(8)? References: <91426.1033973514@critter.freebsd.dk> <216964848.1033965130@[192.168.1.20]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Joel M. Baldwin" wrote: > Shouldn't ALL of the files in /bin, /usr/bin, /usr/include, /usr/lib > etc be replaced during an installworld? They are replaced... if they exist boith before and afterward. They are also created... if they did not exist before, but do exist afterward. What's not done is that they are not *removed*... if they existed before, but were not recreated. Note that every port or package installed on your system, and every file in every user directory, also does not exist as a result of the source tree. Therefore removing everything that is not a result of the source tree would be... Bad(tm). > I've always looked for files older than the last installworld and > moved them aside thinking that they're obsolete. > > ( aside, not delete, just in case ) Yes. And you will have to continue to do so. Base system component files are not removed when they are made obsolete, because they are not registered anywhere, and thus their obsolete status is not known. Consider the case of a *new* "compat-4" library for 5.x, which is required for certain 4.x programs to run, or "Perl", which is a port/package in 5.x, rather than a base system component. You cannot just remove bas system components because they no longer exist, when you have software which depends on them, unless you re-track the dependencies, and force the install of the now-optional components. For Perl, this is not as hard as for "compat-4", or something similar, which will be dependend upon by programs which are not identified to the package managements system, even if you (empasis on _you_) were to do the work to register the rest of the OS into the package management system. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message