From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Mar 31 9: 4:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mail-out1.apple.com (mail-out1.apple.com [17.254.0.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E25A15AA2 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 09:04:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from justin@walker3.apple.com) Received: from mailgate2.apple.com ([17.129.100.225]) by mail-out1.apple.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA46876 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 08:58:07 -0800 Received: from scv3.apple.com (scv3.apple.com) by mailgate2.apple.com (mailgate2.apple.com- SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 08:57:58 -0800 Received: from walker3.apple.com (walker3.apple.com [17.219.24.201]) by scv3.apple.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA36868 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 08:57:57 -0800 Received: by walker3.apple.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA00627 for "'Hackers@FreeBSD.ORG'" ; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 08:57:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199903311657.IAA00627@walker3.apple.com> To: "'Hackers@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: Re: RE: AIX going BSD In-Reply-To: <199903311632.IAA00613@walker3.apple.com> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 08:57:55 -0800 From: "Justin C. Walker" Reply-To: justin@apple.com X-Mailer: by Apple MailViewer (2.105.dev) Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From: Matthew Jacob > Date: 1999-03-31 08:46:37 -0800 >. .... > > > commercial UNICES are secretly floating on 4.4BSD UNIX - > > > The OS that God runs on his PDP/11 up in Heaven. No > > > wonder they won't free up their source code. It'd be too > > > embarassing. > > AIX has always had strong BSD support, from Version 1 on. > > They've never hidden it, and in fact, the documentation generally > > points out where compatibility is is good or bad. Certainly the > > header files from BSD have always been there, particularly for > > networking... > > Can't speak for all commercial unices, but I'd hazzard a > > guess that Solaris and SCO aren't exactly 4.4 BSD. > > > Actually, it's the other way around... 4.4 BSD swiped a tremendous amount > from SunOS 4.X... including the specfs bugs which I fixed in 4.0.3c which > I then saw show up again in OSF/1 (which derived it's BSD impl from > early 4.4). Do you mean SunOS 5.x? I think Solaris 2 == SunOS 5 (not counting Solaris 7, of course :-}). Also, I wouldn't be surprised that OSF/1 incorporated some 4.4 stuff, but it really does predate 4.4BSD. Cheers, Justin Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-At-Large * Institute for General Semantics | Manager, CoreOS Networking | Men are from Earth. Apple Computer, Inc. | Women are from Earth. 2 Infinite Loop | Deal with it. Cupertino, CA 95014 | *-------------------------------------*-------------------------------* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message