From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 23 16:05:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1E8F106566B for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:05:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dddaley@yahoo.com) Received: from nm17-vm1.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm17-vm1.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.236.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 56DD88FC19 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:05:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [66.94.237.200] by nm17.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2012 16:05:34 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.103] by tm11.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2012 16:05:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1008.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2012 16:05:34 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 786509.49809.bm@omp1008.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 27901 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Feb 2012 16:05:34 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1330013134; bh=k0jhqTAyFMuHSjx4xmGaioPGAG6OuJdFrTYblTapOVQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Rr7pRRqGnuBTL++/CkGaBuf9ZZU6vY3DAj2JI15KFjwcdENQEYz74TyucicEeexU24z7cF+Xez7Aw84LwKEEpCSbwWdWUBiVK2VEEOeSdOsuMkM/fsayF5vRRqABl8bnqtvS72Gn6gBOnHfZrIm/2ahtFXy4MV0IMH7OD2GYfn8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=lrj9paiZwqsSsxv272Iucvi/Z+Huu/aMPgibzte694o3MjTMmn6lH0X/PLdArKlHuoFSh2dkt2NnPDR5x4Wtq41e/MH60qnZBvZSXDAcP397hLf8dXnHU8c57ZnDlUgr96m1SoH7Ki81ZlwrwKGU2bbktaWbA+TcEJMrfmdx0Uw=; X-YMail-OSG: CD_2ID4VM1ne1v6CTduS.6SrQaB7cq_DYrx0I7cCm6twZIz uKzZdWPGMV1gTwknOWQhggWCWRZbjVylG2XvExAaLw.1FHk.Q4D1h7BwZ_Xs vWA40ZPoES_TS_B.ST8e6UQRn56YAtTQLtQ3C67FTVOFzdrqFP9hh0h9w8C2 7fuwfHPEiT3Se22xMSGRaX1IdWjkL3e1Yjk9Hs9puG.jt28Z3Rysh4pPjJh0 SCtbL_OQZQEi0KsjNDHkSEq1VuSY2kZDHFr_KLvgdfqcGejXiqqJdwCNV918 I.tNxTYP2doJok.O6QahAhhC_.eeKagIjJrPFlZ8dNHxPGq1TP_NUtHEHOR. Dk7faKDqTmIYaiWLsxItS7_p6MubhlaLzn9U4uZf6U9wj6ESGACrOPZmZ1t6 75AO0Fywrq_2cAHM6HW2Yqs3Mtoqj8tVLe1wK5fDa0m.TC4v9Ee92_L4Y_Q- - Received: from [50.56.228.64] by web83104.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 08:05:34 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/708 YahooMailWebService/0.8.116.338427 References: <4F462189.3040106@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> <0A1E870C-9DD4-449C-8ECA-A5642FF71A7E@transactionware.com> <1330007882.86769.YahooMailRC@web83106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1330013133.27885.YahooMailRC@web83104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 08:05:33 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Daley To: Quentin Schwerkolt , freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: No working IDE in FreeBSD! X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:05:35 -0000 I don't disagree. I was disagreeing with the notion that Unix is an IDE. ________________________________ From: Quentin Schwerkolt To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sent: Thu, February 23, 2012 9:44:50 AM Subject: Re: No working IDE in FreeBSD! Ok, but I think an IDE that can easily compile projects with clang is not a bad idea. On 02/23/12 15:38, Dan Daley wrote: > The I in IDE stands for Integrated. An IDE is an "editor with more general > niftiness" by definition. Unix can be a development environment, but is not an > IDE. > > Dan. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Jan Mikkelsen > To: O. Hartmann > Cc: Current FreeBSD > Sent: Thu, February 23, 2012 7:47:37 AM > Subject: Re: No working IDE in FreeBSD! > > Unix is the original IDE. FreeBSD is a good modern implementation. > > If you don't think that's enough, you need to say what you're really looking > for, rather than just an IDE. It sounds like you're after an editor with more > general niftiness. Visual Slickedit? > > On 23/02/2012, at 10:22 PM, O. Hartmann wrote: > >> Several time ago I tried to do some development within an IDE, not even >> for lectural and educational purposes. Since most of our software is >> written in C/C++ and OpenCL, I highly prefered ANJUTA, since this IDE >> was highly customizable, flexible and even FreeBSD's ancient outdated >> version in the ports suited our needs. >> >> Anjuta does not compile anymore for a long time. I do not know why, I >> filed a PR (ports/161494). So I was looking for an alternative. >> >> I looked for some alternatives. The IDE should be configurable to use >> CLANG. ECLIPSE is to large and it does not fit my purpose. I tried >> devel/CodeBlocks, but CodeBlocks is narrowminded in terms of >> configuration of an alternative compiler and I find it really hard and >> not intuitiv to reconfigure the usage of CLANG. >> >> devel/anjuta is broken, so no chance. I also tried KDevelop, since many >> of our Linux based scientists feel good having this very popular IDE, >> but it is marked "broken" on FreeBSD. >> >> Before I waste more time on searching for a suitable IDE apart ANJUTA, >> I'd like to ask people here what alternative they would suggest if the >> focus is devel/anjuta. Eclipse is no way, KDevelop is broken, CodeBlocks >> is incapable of being easily adapted to CLANG. >> >> Befor people tend to start a flame war: yes, I'm fine with vi and I'm >> also fine with vim/gvim, but our students need to have the opportunity >> to work with an IDE and our projects are partially that large, so an IDE >> is needed. >> >> Thanks a lot for your patience and recommendations in advance. >> >> Oliver >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"