From owner-freebsd-security Tue Oct 3 18:31: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hellasnet.gr (mail.hellasnet.gr [212.54.192.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A046237B502; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 18:30:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hades.hell.gr (ppp1.patr.hellasnet.gr [212.54.197.16]) by mail.hellasnet.gr (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA17581; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 00:31:25 -0200 (GMT) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e941Ova27289; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 04:24:57 +0300 (EEST) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 04:24:57 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Brian Somers Cc: Paul Richards , Jordan Hubbard , Christopher Masto , Warner Losh , Kris Kennaway , Joseph Scott , Brian Somers , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/finger finger.c Message-ID: <20001004042457.A24642@hades.hell.gr> References: <200010032330.e93NUNs35249@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <200010032330.e93NUNs35249@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org>; from brian@Awfulhak.org on Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 12:30:22AM +0100 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3A 75 52 EB F1 58 56 0D - C5 B8 21 B6 1B 5E 4A C2 X-URL: http://students.ceid.upatras.gr/~keramida/index.html Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 12:30:22AM +0100, Brian Somers wrote: > > I don't think that'd be a good idea - it'd just give this ``stable > team'' too much to do. They wouldn't have a chance of identifying > everything that's an MFC candidate. IMHO it would be far more > practical to have them review/commit/deny submissions from others > instead. Even people that are not in a separate ``stable team'' can contribute to testing of new features, and making sure that everything that is MFC'ed to -stable is working as it was expected. While reading this thread tonight, I went and created a special procmail rule to my filters to leave a separate copy of the messages that are sent to cvs-all and contain the string "MFC: " in their body, into a separate folder called freebsd-cvs-mfc. Having all the commit messages in a folder like that will constantly remind me that these things are already into -stable, and that I should spend some time testing them to see how `stable' they are. Jordan is very right in one thing he said: Keeping -stable stable should be everyone's job, and making that an actual reality rather than just a statement would go a long ways towards preventing what just happened from happening again. I think that spending some time reading the MFC messages separately and testing those features that I can, and sending my results on this list, is a Good Thing(TM). Unless anyone dislikes this test-the-merges-after-they-re-done practise, I think I will spend a few hours a day testing -stable things and helping make them more -stable :) -- Giorgos Keramidas, < keramida @ ceid . upatras . gr > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message