From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 14:46:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 191281065678 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 14:46:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cmarlatt@rxsec.com) Received: from core.rxsec.com (core.rxsec.com [64.132.46.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B6D1F8FC2A for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 14:46:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cmarlatt@rxsec.com) Received: (qmail 96773 invoked by uid 2009); 5 Jun 2008 14:35:19 -0000 Received: from 10.1.0.101 by core.rxsec.com (envelope-from , uid 2008) with qmail-scanner-1.25-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.86.2/1102. spamassassin: 3.0.4. perlscan: 1.25-st-qms. Clear:RC:0(10.1.0.101):SA:0(-2.5/5.0):. Processed in 8.774434 secs); 05 Jun 2008 14:35:19 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 X-Antivirus-RXSEC-Mail-From: cmarlatt@rxsec.com via core.rxsec.com X-Antivirus-RXSEC: 1.25-st-qms (Clear:RC:0(10.1.0.101):SA:0(-2.5/5.0):. Processed in 8.774434 secs Process 96701) Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.1.0.101?) (cmarlatt@rxsec.com@10.1.0.101) by core.rxsec.com with SMTP; 5 Jun 2008 14:35:10 -0000 Message-ID: <4847FB1D.1050400@rxsec.com> Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 10:41:33 -0400 From: Chris Marlatt Organization: Receive Security User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080227) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway References: <9B7FE91B-9C2E-4732-866C-930AC6022A40@netconsonance.com> <4846D849.2090005@FreeBSD.org> <4846E14C.709@FreeBSD.org> <48472CCF.8080101@FreeBSD.org> <4847EF62.1070709@rxsec.com> <4847F814.10409@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4847F814.10409@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jo Rhett , Doug Barton , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: challenge: end of life for 6.2 is premature with buggy 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:46:15 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: > Chris Marlatt wrote: >> Kris Kennaway wrote: >>> Jo Rhett wrote: >>>> On Jun 4, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Kris Kennaway wrote: >>>>> Also, it's not like anyone should have been caught by surprise by >>>>> the 6.2 EoL; the expiry date has been advertised since the 6.2 >>>>> release itself. >>>> >>>> >>>> It has changed multiple times. I keep reviewing and finding 6.3 >>>> bugs outstanding, and then observe the EoL get pushed. >>>> >>>> I'm surprised that it failed to get pushed this time. >>>> >>> >>> I'm sorry that the FreeBSD project failed to conform to your >>> expectations. However, I invite you to actually try 6.3 for yourself >>> instead of assuming that it will fail. >>> >>> Kris >> >> In an effort to potentially find a compromise between those who >> believe FreeBSD is EoL'ing previous releases too quickly and those who >> don't. Have those in a position to set FreeBSD release schedules >> debated the option of setting a long term support release, a specific >> release picked by the team to be support for,.. 4 or 5 years? Other >> projects have done this will relative success and considering the >> "only" work required for this release would be security patches the >> work load should be minimized. Hopefully something like this could >> free up more time for the FreeBSD developers to continue their work on >> the newer release(s) while still answering the requests of what seems >> like quite a few of the legacy FreeBSD users. Thoughts? >> >> If this has already been discussed on-list I apologize for beating a >> dead horse but I can't recall it bring brought up before. > > Uh yeah, this has been in place for *years*. Have you actually read the > support announcements? They are public ;) > > Kris I do actually - and when was the last release that was support for such a duration of time,.. 4.11? As of recent the longest I've seen has been 24 months with others being only 12. Regards, Chris