From owner-freebsd-pf@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 20 02:53:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-pf@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D897390 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 02:53:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from max@mxcrypt.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com (mail-wi0-f172.google.com [209.85.212.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A6358FC0C for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 02:53:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f172.google.com with SMTP id hm9so441529wib.13 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 18:53:23 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=uHZV7oe0ApgojbOlciDJXZaHMtIv+DfvnLtc06TJVD4=; b=Y7nsuIw58mj7yiaEEe5QrLNlrHcze0rNK/E30aip48Gu90czUj8nlqi5xlld248j+6 5BCG/bYxKrKQEd0mfuqpl2mAiClwEUuouXDNsx4JVV0tpVq5W2j0I9gEVgiC3DxA9fMI 97dUZEZ5Z1xo6RTKMgWUfpzYWGcZdwUQKNQWkM12YtxKbuq8UmjIxj6P4U6uxjIk3gAN coskPzQz8OYlAvRfrNuSmTac++fT/8g/XYjfWp492qTDBjPAFBZloc7EMMH8sz0oNHvm rE2NQ18EZortB560NLCVnV1/tIof5wn8mXx0cQIyEoJvG26UvJWQmd3MGxk5vHGQOlJr jRxA== Received: by 10.180.92.132 with SMTP id cm4mr11893585wib.12.1353380003525; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 18:53:23 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.81.193 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 18:52:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Maxim Khitrov Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 21:52:53 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Upgrading FreeBSD to use the NEW pf syntax. To: Paul Webster Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlNHkez8HQLwd1m9hHHQl9+ca/wLks/1dOiP/LElvl275zaVszEqXpFu8bKKi8PjnQMV6tm Cc: freebsd-pf@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-pf@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Technical discussion and general questions about packet filter \(pf\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 02:53:25 -0000 On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Paul Webster wrote: > Good day all, > > I am aware this is a much discussed subject since the upgrade of PF, I > believe the final decision was that to many users are used to the old > style pf and an upgrade to the new syntax would cause to much confusion. > > There was a recent debate on ##freebsd about this issue and I was inclined > to mail in and get your opinions; basically it boiled down to the majority > of users wanting either: > > 1) To move to the newer pf and just add to releases notes what had > happened, > and > 2) my own personal opinion: creating 'pf2-*' as a kernel option tree, > basically using the newer pf syntax and allowing users to choose. > > I would be interested to know the feedback from you guys as to be honest > there seems to be quite a few users who actually DO want the new style > format and functionality that comes with. My vote is for option 1, but I'll also be happy with option 2 if it costs little to maintain both versions. I'm pretty much for anything that brings pf in sync (or close to it) with OpenBSD. - Max