From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Mar 29 13:02:03 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C5751568022 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2019 13:02:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from bede.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BBA91903BA for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2019 13:02:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.qeng-ho.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E208110651; Fri, 29 Mar 2019 13:02:00 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: Why is Sendmail still around? To: mayuresh@kathe.in, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4101a1092141b58e05ef7552278b15ff@kathe.in> From: Arthur Chance Message-ID: <78b9b0ce-b7cd-96f6-aeed-d9756f50ce80@qeng-ho.org> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2019 13:02:00 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4101a1092141b58e05ef7552278b15ff@kathe.in> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: BBA91903BA X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@qeng-ho.org designates 217.155.128.241 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@qeng-ho.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.89 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:217.155.128.240/29]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[qeng-ho.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.mythic-beasts.com]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.86)[-0.856,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:13037, ipnet:217.155.0.0/16, country:GB]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-2.72)[ip: (-8.30), ipnet: 217.155.0.0/16(-4.15), asn: 13037(-1.07), country: GB(-0.09)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2019 13:02:03 -0000 On 29/03/2019 01:59, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > I am led to believe that Sendmail is still around in the install image > as well as the base install because some need a way to send out mails > without having to install a package/port. Can't the same be achieved > with "msmtp" which is lighter and easier to configure for simple tasks > than Sendmail. Hope FreeBSD isn't hanging on to Sendmail due to some > political issue like being the baby of one of the lead developers / > founders! Note that dma (the DragonFly Mail Agent) appeared in FreeBSD as of 11.2 (I think, maybe 11.1). It's basically an SMTP client for sending mail off the machine, not receiving incoming. It can do local delivery too, if anyone is still using that. When building jails I strip out most "system" executables including sendmail and use dma if the jail needs to send mail out. I also use it on headless servers, passing everything to a smarthost. "man dma" for details. -- What do we want? A time machine! When do we want it? Errm ...