From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 29 07:33:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5629FFD2 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 07:33:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtprelay06.ispgateway.de (smtprelay06.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.103]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 102CC1378 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 07:33:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [80.67.16.118] (helo=webmail.df.eu) by smtprelay06.ispgateway.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1VmIZO-0001ce-ND for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 08:32:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 08:32:58 +0100 From: Markus Hoenicka To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: math "formulae" using libreoffice In-Reply-To: <529841F9.5090904@herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <20131120000851.GA8007@ethic.thought.org> <20131120014303.7eb2bd44.freebsd@edvax.de> <20131120014134.GA9893@ethic.thought.org> <20131121001853.GA18522@ethic.thought.org> <20131121211010.fd168924.freebsd@edvax.de> <20131121234959.GB28395@ethic.thought.org> <20131122011153.fc81837d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20131122005933.GA3297@ethic.thought.org> <20131122022650.2636ef22.freebsd@edvax.de> <52973695.4070208@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20131129054342.d1e814d8.freebsd@edvax.de> <2154b7b42fce5a342aeeee5a1e6f59cf@mhoenicka.de> <529841F9.5090904@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Message-ID: <68e0848b2bb1e2da79189848a8a77769@mhoenicka.de> X-Sender: markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail X-Df-Sender: bWFya3VzLmhvZW5pY2thQG1ob2VuaWNrYS5kZQ== X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 07:33:23 -0000 Am 2013-11-29 08:27, schrieb Da Rock: > On 11/29/13 17:03, Markus Hoenicka wrote: >> Am 2013-11-29 05:43, schrieb Polytropon: >>> On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 22:27:01 +1000, Da Rock wrote: >>>> On 11/22/13 11:26, Polytropon wrote: >>>> > On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:59:33 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: >>>> >> I'l ck it out, thankee. I have been wondering about the diff >>>> >> between openX and libreX {X == "office"} but guessed that >>>> >> "open" was what the BSD's chose ... >>>> > No, they are two different products, maintained independently. >>>> > If I remember correctly, it started with StarOffice as the first >>>> > major office suite becoming a free product (I've been using >>>> > version 3.x and 4.0 of this), it was then "incorporated" by >>>> > Sun which later became OpenOffice. When Oracle bought and >>>> > (mostly) destroyed Sun, OpenOffice was one of the victims; >>>> > they added proprietary code and finally abandoned it. That >>>> > was the time when LibreOffice was forked. Today, LibreOffice >>>> > is _the_ office suite per se. >>>> Not to start a war, but it went StarOffice as a free product (up to >>>> about 5 or 6, I think), then Sun made it a paid product and forked >>>> OpenOffice as an open source alternative (good ole Sun); then Oracle >>>> got >>>> involved and Libreoffice was forked with some of the original devs >>>> walking with it and overhauling it in the process, and finally with >>>> OpenOffice finally abandoned to the wolves by Oracle at a later date >>>> and >>>> rescued by the Apache incubator project not so many years ago now. >>> >>> That won't start a war, at least not from my side. :-) >>> >>> I wasn't aware that Sun didn't continue the "tradition of free" >>> from the start. It's always nice to learn something about history. >>> So todays we're left with the decision "Apache OpenOffice vs. >>> TDF LibreOffice" (just mentioning the "big players", there's >>> still AbiWord, Gnumeric et al. as separate components)... >> >> I'm afraid this is still not quite correct. To the best of my >> knowledge, StarDivision (from Hamburg, Germany) sold StarOffice as a >> commercial software until they were purchased by Sun. However, at this >> point the software had been free for personal use for about a year or >> so. It was not open source though. After purchasing StarOffice, Sun >> made it free for commercial use as well and eventually released the >> sources as well. This recollection matches what I read here: >> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarDivision > The plot thickens... :) Yes, and I'm hanging on the edge of my seat waiting for Scott McNealy to chime in :-) Markus -- Markus Hoenicka http://www.mhoenicka.de AQ score 38