From owner-cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 06:56:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-src@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A79037B401; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 06:56:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spider.deepcore.dk (cpe.atm2-0-56339.0x50c6aa0a.abnxx2.customer.tele.dk [80.198.170.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53D5A43FA3; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 06:56:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@spider.deepcore.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by spider.deepcore.dk (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) id h38Du7PF032425; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 15:56:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) From: Soeren Schmidt Message-Id: <200304081356.h38Du7PF032425@spider.deepcore.dk> In-Reply-To: <20030408153259.2a4b03ac.Alexander@Leidinger.net> To: Alexander Leidinger Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 15:56:07 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL98b (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 cc: cvs-src@freebsd.org cc: src-committers@freebsd.org cc: sos@freebsd.org cc: cvs-all@freebsd.org cc: des@ofug.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/ata ata-all.c ata-all.hata-chipset.cata-dma.c ata-pci.c ata-pci.h X-BeenThere: cvs-src@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 13:56:10 -0000 It seems Alexander Leidinger wrote: > > > Yes... so what's the problem with ATA & TQ? > > > > Its borked at the moment. > > I know... let's assume it would work: what's the problem with ATA & TQ > which prevents it from being as effective as the SCSI TQ? None that I know of except maybe the number of tags (32).. > > > > Besides, enabling ATA tags automatically enables the write cache. > > > > > > This can be changed... > > > > No it cannot, requirement of the HW. > > Does this mean we can't use ATA-TQ in situations where we would use TQ > without WC on a SCSI system (read: does it affect softupdates)? Well, this has newer been found out by hard evidence. The only vendor doing tags capable ATA disks doesn't want to tell, so we cant really know for sure. However tests here indicates that the "WC effect" is not in action when tags are enabled, but I could just have been unusually lucky... -Søren