From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Dec 19 15:48:35 2000 From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 19 15:48:32 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954EE37B400 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 15:48:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (Ipittythefoolthattrustsident@trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10166; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 15:48:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBJNmUC79092; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 15:48:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 15:48:29 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: "Michael C . Wu" Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: StrongARM support? Message-ID: <20001219154829.A79058@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG References: <78656.976769151@winston.osd.bsdi.com> <3A3862E4.5A46E14C@wireless.net> <20001218151235.D69041@peorth.iteration.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001218151235.D69041@peorth.iteration.net>; from keichii@iteration.net on Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 03:12:35PM -0600 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: obrien@NUXI.com Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 03:12:35PM -0600, Michael C . Wu wrote: > I would be quite interested. But do we have the resouces and the man-hours > to handle IA-64/KA-64/PPC/Alpha/StrongARM at the same time? Agreed. > Perhaps the first step would be to start a freebsd-arm@freebsd.org > mailing list? Then why start Yet Another(tm) mailing list for it as everyone has agreed it isn't time for that yet. > However, imho we should finish the FreeBSD/PPC project first. > The StrongARM is quite similiar to the PPC processors. If we > get the loader and init working, the rest will be a breeze. The loader would be very different from PowerPC for any StrongARM development platform I'm aware of -- DNARD and CATS. Uh... you certainly seem to have forgotten about locore.s and pmap modules. They are not "a breeze". > We could simply build a cross-gcc on ARM/Linux and the rest is > making sure that everything compiles. How about concentrating effort on just _one_ new platform (ok, two -- ia64 and powerpc)??? > The good thing is that we do not need SMP on FreeBSD/ARM/StrongARM. > (PowerPC still needs SMP support though.) Yes and no. Depend ons what you're doing with the powerpc -- remember the most interest for FreeBSD/PowerPC to date has been embedded products and comm processors. They don't tend to be SMP boards. I really don't see running on Mac G3/4 as the driving reason -- that machine is just the reference and development platform. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message