From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Sep 8 17:59:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA20911 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 17:59:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (gregl1.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA20899 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 17:59:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id KAA16153; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 10:29:26 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19970909102925.21559@lemis.com> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 10:29:25 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Brandon Gillespie , Brian Mitchell , Lutz Albers , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: what do you think ... should/could ports move to -> /usr/local/ports ? References: <16482.873765629@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81e In-Reply-To: <16482.873765629@time.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Mon, Sep 08, 1997 at 05:40:29PM -0700 Organisation: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8250 Fax: +61-8-8388-8250 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Fight-Spam-Now: http://www.cauce.org Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, Sep 08, 1997 at 05:40:29PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > Folks... I think it's time for a serious reality-check here. > > I don't think we're ever going to come to anything even *remotely* > resembling a concensus to change this, so I might respectfully suggest > that we simply kill the subject thread. /opt? Never. /local? You > gotta be kidding me. /usr/opt? Not on your life. > > See? I already hate the counter-proposals discussed so far myself, > and I'm hardly alone - there are many others here who would consider > me a real wimp for using such tame responses as "never" and "not on > your life" when they feel that "you've got to be f***ing kidding me! > No way in *hell*, man!" would be closer to the proper response to > these proposals so far. :-) > > /usr/local sucks too, sure, but at least we're used to it and people > have long experience now in administering that location. Nothing but > a painful and extended flame war would result from an actual change > here, and we'd be complete idiots to voluntarily provoke such an > outcome, so I really don't see the point in all this discussion about > it. Well, your reaction doesn't surprise me. I didn't really expect anything to change, either. But I'd hate to see us degenerate to the stage where we say "It's probably not going to happen, so let's not discuss it". Greg