From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 19 11:35:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 545CE1065670 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:35:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cemkayali@eticaret.com.tr) Received: from dolphin.defaultdns.com (dolphin.defaultdns.com [208.38.186.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2474A8FC21 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:35:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cemkayali@eticaret.com.tr) Received: from [85.100.124.6] (helo=[192.168.0.80]) by dolphin.defaultdns.com with esmtpsa (SSLv3:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MHcNm-0000ld-44; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:35:46 +0000 Message-ID: <4A3B778F.5040302@eticaret.com.tr> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:33:35 +0300 From: Cem Kayali User-Agent: Evolution 2.22.3.1 (X11/20080709) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Oliver Pinter References: <735E59909DEB44AF92825EA7C65CF430@ionicoffice.ionic.co.uk> <00265389C30B444288C246DF37651D0C249024DD1B@server-02.playsafesa.com> <6101e8c40906190408h5b6a4496td12e2b9e4872459e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6101e8c40906190408h5b6a4496td12e2b9e4872459e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dolphin.defaultdns.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [26 6] / [26 6] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - eticaret.com.tr Cc: misc@openbsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Open Vs Free BSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:35:51 -0000 I have used NetBSD several years on mainly amd64 platform, and these are + properties. - Xen support and boot NetBSD as dom0 and a Linux ie; Ubuntu as domU. - Clean design of rc.d scripts. Also NetBSD does not automatically populate rc.d scripts, user adds sample one (displayed after installing pkgsrc software). - Veriexec support. What is veriexec => It is set of hashes that kernel checks before deleting or running a (binary) file according to veriexec settings. - Clean documentation of CGD. Any noob user can easily configure cryptographic disk. - More stable pkgsrc softwares with respect to FreeBSD. - 32 bit and 64 bit linux emulation in amd64 port. It works almost perfectly. - More friendly mailing lists -- NetBSD people are patient somehow ;) Just someone should decide which specifications is more important for him/her. Hint: - No blob driver. - More and more security, hardly checked codes, fixed bugs (which leads to possible future holes, and later to hear 'it was fixed in OpenBSD 6 months ago') The answer is OpenBSD. Regards, Cem Oliver Pinter, 06/19/09 14:08: > and the security is in netbsd: > > http://netbsd.gw.com/cgi-bin/man-cgi?security+8+NetBSD-5.0 > http://www.netbsd.org/~elad/recent/recent06.pdf > > On 6/19/09, Ivan Voras wrote: > >> Kim Attree wrote: >> >> >>> NetBSD runs on just about anything. That's it's primary goal. Since I >>> don't >>> have any weird hardware, I've never had a use for NetBSD. >>> >> I don't use NetBSD either but some recent development that come from >> that camp are very interesting: >> >> * Journalling UFS ("smart" journalling, not gjournal) >> * PUFFS (BSD implementation of FUSE-like system [file system in userland]) >> * They had Xen dom0 and domU for years >> * They are starting to show decent results in SMP support, including a >> new scheduler (a bit similar to ULE); their GENERIC has SMP included >> * Possibly superpages, I'm not sure how to parse "Merged amd64 and i386 >> pmap. Large pages are always used if available" >> * I think they are working on their own ZFS port >> * They have ported or reimplemented Linux LVM (read+write+admin) >> >> There are of course other things; see for example >> http://www.netbsd.org/releases/formal-5/NetBSD-5.0.html >> >> I have a feeling the project has been revitalized in the last few years. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > >