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Date:      Sat, 20 Sep 2014 20:13:47 +0200
From:      "O. Hartmann" <ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de>
To:        Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com>
Cc:        freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, FreeBSD CURRENT <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: x11/nvidia-driver (340.24/340.32/343.13): nvidia BLOB doesn't recognize any display socket on Lenovo E540/UEFI and FBSD CURRENT
Message-ID:  <20140920201347.0a4b9658.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de>
In-Reply-To: <20140920191530.6b538c62.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de>
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Am Sat, 20 Sep 2014 19:15:30 +0200
"O. Hartmann" <ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> schrieb:

> Am Sat, 20 Sep 2014 08:27:27 -0600 (MDT)
> Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> schrieb:
> 
> > On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, O. Hartmann wrote:
> > 
> > > Am Sat, 20 Sep 2014 07:36:21 -0600 (MDT)
> > > Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> schrieb:
> > >
> > >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2014, O. Hartmann wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> nVidia's BLOB from port x11/nvidia-driver seems to have problems in FreeBSD
> > >>> 11.0-CURRENT #2 r271869: Fri Sep 19 13:28:03 CEST 2014 amd64, on Lenovo ThinkPad
> > >>> Edge E540 laptop with CPU i5-4200M (Haswell) with integrated HD4600 Intel iGPU and
> > >>> dedicated nVidia GT 740M (Optimus) working correctly.
> > >>
> > >> Optimus is supposed to be full Intel graphics plus an Nvidia GPU.  The
> > >> extra GPU uses the same display memory and can be enabled to speed up
> > >> the Intel graphics or disabled for power saving.  I don't know if
> > >> versions where the Nvidia section is a full discrete video adapter that
> > >> can be used alone are still called "Optimus".
> > >>
> > >> Some Optimus owners have reported being able to use the Intel drivers
> > >> after disabling the Nvidia GPU in the BIOS or UEFI.  If an option to
> > >> disable the Nvidia GPU is not present, some people have reported success
> > >> with an xorg.conf that uses only the intel driver and ignores the Nvidia
> > >> hardware.
> > >
> > > Thanks Warren.
> > >
> > > But this sounds even more frustrating now. I look around the web even at Lenovo's
> > > support forum. Many people report the GT 740M nVidia adaptor as a discrete adaptor
> > > with Optimus technology and everything sounds to me like it can be selected
> > > exclusively. What you describes is that I definitely need to use the HD4600 iGPU on
> > > FreeBSD in the first place since the nVidia hardware is a kind of "appendix" to the
> > > HD4600.
> > 
> > Optimus started out that way, but they might use the same name now for 
> > models where the additional GPU is a full discrete adapter.
> 
> I tried to retrieve  informations about the settings and implementations in the lenovo
> E540, but I guess the only answer can be given by developer documentation. I can not
> figure out how the GPU is attached to the system. The technical specifications do not
> mention the requirement of a iGPU and shared memory - as Optimus would require.
> 
> But extrapolating from that "shit-covering" public relations talking at nVidia's site I
> guess the GT 740M is definitely a shared memory solution and requires the presence of
> the iGPU. That would explain why the nvidia BLOB is detecting the GPU, but can not find
> any physical display socket, not even the built-in LCD. They're maybe wired all throught
> the Haswell's HD4600 iGPU? 
> 
> > 
> > > Anyway, I also tried to configure X11 as HD4600 only and X11 doesn't work properly:
> > > it doesn't even start up and loading the "intel" driver complains about a missing
> > > device
> > > - preceeded by a lot of /dev/dri errors. This indicates to me, in a naiv manner,
> > > that this HD4600 isn't recodnized by the kernel, either. I do not see any kind of
> > > vga0: entry in the kernel log when enabling "Integrated Graphics" only in the
> > > laptop's UEFI/Firmware. When enabling "nVidia Optimus", a recognized vga0: device
> > > shows up.
> > 
> > Whoops, HD4600 is Haswell.  The intel driver on FreeBSD does not support 
> > Haswell video yet.
> 
> 
> I suspected that :-(
> 
> Thanks anyway,
> 
> Oliver

Oh, by the way, where is x11-drivers/xf86-video-noveau? I can only find
x11-drivers/xf86-video-nv, which covers old hardware and it is not applicable to the GT
740M (complains, rightfully, that the found device isn't supported by the "nv" driver).

I face a mess here ... :-(

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