From owner-freebsd-isdn Mon Jan 25 03:12:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA28409 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 03:05:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from aw.ivm.net (mail.ivm.net [195.78.161.2] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA28400 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 03:05:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ap@bnc.net) Received: from gemini.bnc.net (gemini.bnc.net [195.247.233.33]) by aw.ivm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA01997; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:05:27 +0100 X-To: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Received: (from ap@localhost) by gemini.bnc.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA71134; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:05:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ap) From: Achim Patzner Message-Id: <199901251105.MAA71134@gemini.bnc.net> Subject: Re: I4B support for US ISDN? In-Reply-To: <81C8165DD2A7D111AD700000F81F29CB02504A2B@nwcwi19.europe.nortel.com> from Barry Scott at "Jan 25, 1999 10:44:24 am" To: tsbarry@nortelnetworks.com (Barry Scott) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:05:18 +0100 (CET) Cc: ap@bnc.net, freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > And now someone might tell me why the CCITT needs such a brain damaged > > vocabulary to describe the simple facts of life. > > Maybe the facts are obvious to you. But would I understand them the > same way? If not we cannot communicate. Much of the language of the > CCITT is an attempt to be precise in specification. Totally off-topic, but... This is not what I wanted to say... Let me try again: The entire civilized world would use the term "byte" for data words of 8 bits size. CCITT needede to coin the term "octets" to keep the French happy. The same about the term "reference point". And calling the equipment to connect non-ISDN devices to an S reference point "Terminal Adapter" was some kind of meanness too - at that time this term was already in use for totally diffenrent equipment. It's like IBM using EBCDIC . "We're the Borg. Prepare your dictionaries to be assimilated". I stumbled about that kind of "we don't really care" when I started working on an X.400/X.500 project a long tiome ago. And if you care for precise specifications... Yesterday I had to learn that IETF isn't much nicer than my scrutinizing Archie's original message (which I just did to remind people of CCITT's way of demanding "precision"). And obviously their papers are definitely easier to understand ynd readable without looking up words in the glossary all the time. Noses. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message