From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Dec 3 04:07:43 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB8D6C63DA1; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 04:07:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ler@lerctr.org) Received: from thebighonker.lerctr.org (thebighonker.lerctr.org [IPv6:2001:470:1f0f:3ad:223:7dff:fe9e:6e8a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "thebighonker.lerctr.org", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A8E6B24F; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 04:07:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ler@lerctr.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lerctr.org; s=lerami; h=Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Sender:Reply-To: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=lv0+QF8M6UL8UE/kFmd0AGpMldN8Nx23+gvv1iO7EFg=; b=QbsAWVFJnenHiI8zhkXBMGHJkN /HcZvmpeZxm13GYvKVXVBx2zVSLweZFxks2CZUwyOpJZXSl6+rfRViqvw29JK3gywdIduOYEQnkik t/16okM/X8OvYAXefGWLpqj7SWxznyHxf5LBiBiLvaziyA2NMQQ+TVmU8GclmJprK5P4=; Received: from thebighonker.lerctr.org ([2001:470:1f0f:3ad:223:7dff:fe9e:6e8a]:24504 helo=webmail.lerctr.org) by thebighonker.lerctr.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1cD1by-00086w-IG; Fri, 02 Dec 2016 22:07:42 -0600 Received: from 2001:470:1f0f:42c:8573:da54:85d0:481c by webmail.lerctr.org with HTTP (HTTP/1.1 POST); Fri, 02 Dec 2016 22:07:42 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2016 22:07:42 -0600 From: Larry Rosenman To: Kevin Oberman Cc: Greg 'groggy' Lehey , FreeBSD Ports , Dave Horsfall , owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FOCAL In-Reply-To: References: <20161203015938.GE44284@eureka.lemis.com> Message-ID: <1fca9c334b64e9c1e9a7c64edb8723eb@lerctr.org> X-Sender: ler@lerctr.org User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.2.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2016 04:07:43 -0000 On 2016-12-02 22:02, Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 5:59 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey > wrote: > >> On Saturday, 3 December 2016 at 11:40:36 +1100, Dave Horsfall wrote: >> > Be there an implementation of FOCAL? I have a hankering to get back to >> my >> > early programming days :-) >> >> Heh. I have a paper tape from my first year at uni somewhere in the >> mess on my desk. It's been there for at least 10 years, and it's >> short enough for it to be practical to read it in by eye, but I >> haven't got more than a third of the way through. It's in FOCAL-69, >> and does some world-shattering calculations like mean and standard >> deviation. It would be fun to run it again--once. >> >> Greg >> > > Wow! Have not thought of FOCAL in years. Used to write a bit both when > in > college and, using FOCAL-11, in my early years at LLNL. Unlike FOCAL on > a > PDP-8, FOCAL-11 ran on top of DOS-11. (No relation to Microsoft DOS.) > The > PDP-8L was the only solid state computer in the lab. All of the others > still had vacuum tubes and drum memory, though the Univac Athena had > both > drum and core. > > In college I wrote a simple craps game and, it it caught you trying to > cheat, it zeroed your account and gave you the finger on the ASR-33. My > computer logic prof (and department head) saw that trivial ASCII art > and > chewed me a new one for putting code to generate that gesture on a > school > computer. That was about 45 years ago. Memories! Brings back memories for me as well from high school. Back in 1972. PDP-8/L in the Levittown (NY) School District. -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 214-642-9640 E-Mail: ler@lerctr.org US Mail: 17716 Limpia Crk, Round Rock, TX 78664-7281