From owner-dev-commits-ports-main@freebsd.org Sat Jun 12 17:03:29 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: dev-commits-ports-main@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E47564E1D6 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 17:03:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevin.bowling@kev009.com) Received: from mail-yb1-xb30.google.com (mail-yb1-xb30.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::b30]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4G2PDc4f5jz3FmW for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 17:03:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevin.bowling@kev009.com) Received: by mail-yb1-xb30.google.com with SMTP id q21so8998390ybg.8 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 10:03:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kev009.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=4VN841bRGpO4/UVhZLMrmdETjWHK/ZvDFxuExl0FBl8=; b=a2qbhixetJBwM+kTyzG02n/W/aW27oYeCj1VlIOES5HpPvOq8dpmVe/GgUgsRToiDk 8aeYwUi0PVVVe3hPqTPsZ7wf4imZRcuWsOglZSIrw611Dmgm4nPzFjDtEevmDPlyfI3B 45zIAfSPRIcTIVQRyE/6V/AJfw+lk6FXBjc7Y= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=4VN841bRGpO4/UVhZLMrmdETjWHK/ZvDFxuExl0FBl8=; b=PCs1uKuQC378jZyBoGNibMYUAYUkX1oH8RZoWbW1MpN+vB2N/X4ZhWUQL0d3jEXJuK Z76O3ElP3wVyAX/8SP3pdVzu0HGyDTzSDWnlWtWRPCosxtuY4VJEOOUDd3UuwyRmduOr Id86uAMKgoTITosUzWMILWsw5uZ55VvKFLV6TALz4U7dV7uIbSN7njM3Zd1+BVS8FKUv t7AEJTInLUN90XDtsbMFP5tjQ0ueiLGyacMpnkms6HywXbZPUdDTJ5bPWOcpKNiRjaF6 uQ7TWOt+jcexWLyqRXLDbDrcjDTxxe5UUh/T5wA406m8sO18ee0Rt61LA6j6onYQMThY UCYQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533yqVAbpR+3XE+lBEdu/WwlqfGoM+s+Eu8eVDsui6pXKCm9VcUX HxEidTbwYqHGq3XjMKMbjlqwFH+pXh2+XSkM5iXinA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzpYFC9uz46/LO7qJBZqP0jddQlovPUIPkDjDE51IMR1dVwu58ry0+LpQc5nZ4+K+U/J7va3u7QI8BzjCxqG90= X-Received: by 2002:a25:7b81:: with SMTP id w123mr12614747ybc.429.1623517407524; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 10:03:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202106120054.15C0stWJ075154@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <20210612110814.GA12205@lonesome.com> In-Reply-To: From: Kevin Bowling Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2021 10:03:16 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: git: 69c9420a212a - main - news/inn-CURRENT: New port to follow CURRENT snaps To: Alexey Dokuchaev Cc: Mark Linimon , Kevin Bowling , Po-Chuan Hsieh , dev-commits-ports-all@freebsd.org, dev-commits-ports-main@freebsd.org, ports-committers Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4G2PDc4f5jz3FmW X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none (invalid DKIM record) header.d=kev009.com header.s=google header.b=a2qbhixe; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kevin.bowling@kev009.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::b30 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kevin.bowling@kev009.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.87 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[dev-commits-ports-main@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kev009.com]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::b30:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[kev009.com:~]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.57)[-0.570]; RCPT_COUNT_SEVEN(0.00)[7]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::b30:from]; R_DKIM_PERMFAIL(0.00)[kev009.com:s=google]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::b30:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[dev-commits-ports-main]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: dev-commits-ports-main@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Commits to the main branch of the FreeBSD ports repository List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2021 17:03:29 -0000 On Sat, Jun 12, 2021 at 9:52 AM Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 12, 2021 at 08:53:35AM -0700, Kevin Bowling wrote: > > ... > > There is no technical reason to change the proper names of software, > > it's downright silliness. > > The reason here is mainly organizational, not technical, -- that is, > consistency or, as Mark had very nicely put, trying bring some order > into the chaos which is immanental to the huge collection of software > we have in our ports. We cannot and should not follow every stupid > upstream naming idea (or any other their stupidity, FWIW). It's not stupid to respect the naming of other people's work. FreeBSD is FreeBSD, not freebsd, and -CURRENT was -CURRENT not -current. If you referred to me as 'kevin' repeatedly I would assume you are lazy and not really care. If you insist on it in code or documentation it's disrespectful. Software naming is not our choice. To prepare a gong show where some things follow proper naming and others don't so you get publicly shamed.. I won't stand for that. Please write the rules in the Porter's handbook and explain why and when there is a distinction and we won't need to have discussion, you can point contributors to a link in the future. > ./danfe