From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 11:50:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E856B16A4CE; Thu, 4 Mar 2004 11:50:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from hak.cnd.mcgill.ca (hak.cnd.mcgill.ca [132.216.11.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 878D043D3F; Thu, 4 Mar 2004 11:50:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mat@hak.cnd.mcgill.ca) Received: from hak.cnd.mcgill.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.cnd.mcgill.ca (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i24JpwCR035738; Thu, 4 Mar 2004 14:51:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mat@hak.cnd.mcgill.ca) Received: (from mat@localhost) by hak.cnd.mcgill.ca (8.12.9/8.12.8/Submit) id i24JpqZv035734; Thu, 4 Mar 2004 14:51:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 14:51:52 -0500 From: Mathew Kanner To: Robert Watson Message-ID: <20040304195152.GA35653@cnd.mcgill.ca> References: <20040303163157.3440f8cb.rpratt1950@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Organization: I speak for myself, operating in Montreal, CANADA X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.62 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.62 (2004-01-11) on hak.cnd.mcgill.ca cc: hackers@freebsd.org cc: Jorn Argelo cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: Randy Pratt Subject: Re: Standard sbc and pcm support in GENERIC kernel? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:50:04 -0000 On Mar 04, Robert Watson wrote: > > On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Randy Pratt wrote: > > > On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 17:03:40 +0100 (CET) you wrote: > > > I've been on the question list for some time, and I have noticed > > > that many people do not know how to get sound support up and > > > running in FreeBSD 5.X. I know that re-compiling the kernel is easy > > > enough, but there are still people not willing to do so, as I have > > > noticed on the list. Therefor I thought it might be an idea to put > > > sound support in the GENERIC kernel configuration, so that newbies > > > will no longer find themselves stuck with that. > > > > I think I've read more than one time about problems fitting the > > installation on the 1.44M floppies. > > > > Definitely a bikeshed discussion but adding to the documentation > > regarding kldload or a knob in sysinstall to turn on all sound modules > > is preferable to adding to the kernel. > > Actually, pcm was in GENERIC for a while, but was removed because it > caused hangs on boot with a common line of Dell Latitude notebooks at the > time. The problem is likely now fixed, and I'd certainly not object to it > being in GENERIC as long as there are no similar widespread issues now. Hello All, I would like to note that kldload'ing the sound modules works very well and I would prefer that to be standard operating procedure for sound. I have a patch for the PCM man page that includes this tid-bit. --Mat -- In general, a standard is very useful, whether it's de facto or du jour. - Microsoft's Greg Sullivan as misquoted by News.Com