From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 18:56:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7377216A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 18:56:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (creme-brulee.marcuscom.com [24.172.16.118]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA85943D49 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 18:56:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from [10.2.1.2] (vpn-client-2.marcuscom.com [10.2.1.2]) i8OIu3Q7076921; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 14:56:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Message-ID: <41546DF5.3090001@marcuscom.com> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 14:56:53 -0400 From: Joe Marcus Clarke Organization: MarcusCom, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Macintosh/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jesse van den Kieboom References: <1096048409.4849.5.camel@ravenlock> In-Reply-To: <1096048409.4849.5.camel@ravenlock> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on creme-brulee.marcuscom.com cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HAL/udev/gnome-volume-manager X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 18:56:51 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jesse van den Kieboom wrote: | I don't know if this is the right list to post this question, but I'm | posting it here for now. | | I think most people are aware of the HAL (hardware abstraction layer) | development currently going on for linux. | (http://www.freedesktop.org/Software/hal). I've worked with it under | Gnu/Debian and it seems to me that it's very promissing. With | applications as gnome-volume-manager and the gnome-device-manager the | freebsd desktop would in my opinion be a step further towards a more | user friendly desktop. | | I don't know that much about the whole development and I don't know if | it is hard to implement under freebsd, but I think it is worth it (if | it's possible). | | I would just like to suggest the benefits it could give to FreeBSD. I agree, and this has been heavily discussed on freebsd-gnome@ and #freebsd-gnome on Freenode. HAL is very Linux 2.6-centric right now. I've gone through the some of the code, and implementing it will be a challenge. However, I think it can be done using devinfo with devd for hotplug information. One of the biggest issues we've seen in very early testing is that devd does not provide hard drive info. That is, we can see a umass device attaching, but we don't have an easy way of figuring out the drive associated with it. There is a very indirect way of determining this using CAM, but it would be nice if devd could be extended a bit. If you're interested in helping out with HAL development, let me know. Joe | | | Jesse van den Kieboom | | _______________________________________________ | freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list | http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports | To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" | - -- PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBVG31b2iPiv4Uz4cRAqEoAKCApqX8AN8jndd77Rdm/eifmBu3bQCgmGVy ZUZlKmTyQf2veohUWB3PNrI= =8Sj2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----