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From: Jonathan Mini <j_mini@efn.org>
To: Support user <support@zeta.org.au>
Cc: Bruce Evans <bde@zeta.org.au>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: spam filter blocks legitimate sender
Reply-To: Jonathan Mini <j_mini@efn.org>
References: <199707221907.FAA06096@godzilla.zeta.org.au> <199707240640.QAA12379@gidora.kralizec.net.au>
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Support user stands accused of saying :
> G'day Bruce,
> 
> > Zeta is said to be "over spam-rampant and hates us poor dynamic IP folks" :-).
> 
> The fix, for the person trying to send the mail, is very easy ... simply
> use your real E-mail address in the "From" envelope header.

  Ahhh. But I do. The problem is that my hostname "micron.efn.org" doesn't
exist, even though my headers all refer to "j_mini@efn.org" (which is my real
email address).
  This one's been beaten to death already, so I won't repeat what I said
before. Read the other message, or delete this one as well. I'm sure probably
90% of us don't really care anymore.

> My host doesn't care whether he uses a dynamic IP address. It cares only
> that a resolvable domain name is in the "From" envelope header.
>
> I make no apology for fighting spam. And I make no apology to people who
> inject E-mail containing bogus domain names onto the Net.
> 
> Nick.
> 
> > From: Jonathan Mini <j_mini@efn.org>
> > To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
> > Subject: [MAILER-DAEMON: Returned mail: Service unavailable]
> > Reply-To: Jonathan Mini <j_mini@efn.org>
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> > 
> > How annoying. Bruce Evan's site is over spam-rampant and hates us poor dynamic
> > IP folks. I'm about ready to ask my ISP for a DNS entry that points to nowhere,
> > just so that I can send people like this mail.
> > 
> > -----Forwarded message from Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON>-----
> > 
> > Received: from localhost (localhost)
> > 	by micron.efn.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with internal id KAA10614;
> > 	Tue, 22 Jul 1997 10:45:41 -0700 (PDT)
> > Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 10:45:41 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON>
> > Message-Id: <199707221745.KAA10614@micron.efn.org>
> > To: mini
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status;
> > 	boundary="KAA10614.869593541/micron.efn.org"
> > Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable
> > Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure)
> > 
> > This is a MIME-encapsulated message
> > 
> > --KAA10614.869593541/micron.efn.org
> > 
> > The original message was received at Tue, 22 Jul 1997 10:42:59 -0700 (PDT)
> > from mini@localhost
> > 
> >    ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> > Bruce Evans <bde@zeta.org.au>
> > 
> >    ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> > ... while talking to godzilla.zeta.org.au.:
> > >>> MAIL From:<mini@micron.efn.org> SIZE=3506 RET=HDRS
> > <<< 571 <mini@micron.efn.org>... Domain name micron.efn.org incorrect
> > 554 Bruce Evans <bde@zeta.org.au>... Service unavailable
> 
> Nick.

-- 
Jonathan Mini (j_mini@efn.org)

... bleakness ... desolation ... plastic forks ...