From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 13:09:48 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A93C569 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 13:09:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cell.glebius.int.ru (glebius.int.ru [81.19.69.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cell.glebius.int.ru", Issuer "cell.glebius.int.ru" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A539565A for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 13:09:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cell.glebius.int.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cell.glebius.int.ru (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t36D9itP091475 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 6 Apr 2015 16:09:44 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from glebius@localhost) by cell.glebius.int.ru (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id t36D9iki091474; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 16:09:44 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: cell.glebius.int.ru: glebius set sender to glebius@FreeBSD.org using -f Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2015 16:09:44 +0300 From: Gleb Smirnoff To: Slawa Olhovchenkov Subject: Re: svn commit: r281129 - head/etc Message-ID: <20150406130944.GZ64665@glebius.int.ru> References: <201504060132.t361WRVe090234@svn.freebsd.org> <55226ED7.2010007@citrin.ru> <20150406125706.GY64665@glebius.int.ru> <20150406130652.GI74532@zxy.spb.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20150406130652.GI74532@zxy.spb.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: svn-src-all@freebsd.org, Anton Yuzhaninov X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 13:09:48 -0000 On Mon, Apr 06, 2015 at 04:06:52PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: S> On Mon, Apr 06, 2015 at 03:57:06PM +0300, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: S> S> > On Mon, Apr 06, 2015 at 02:32:39PM +0300, Anton Yuzhaninov wrote: S> > A> On 04/06/15 04:32, Dmitry Marakasov wrote: S> > A> > Log: S> > A> > Switch russian login class to UTF-8 S> > A> > S> > A> S> > A> UTF-8 is still has problems in FreeBSD. S> > A> S> > A> E. g. try to sort file with lines (with ru_RU.UTF-8 locale) S> > A> S> > A> $ cat > ttt S> > A> з S> > A> ё S> > A> ж S> > A> е S> > A> Ctrl+d S> > A> $ sort ttt S> > A> е S> > A> ж S> > A> з S> > A> ё S> > A> S> > A> This order is wrong. S> > S> > This is known. The problems of staying w/o UTF-8 today overweight problems S> > of switching to UTF-8. S> > S> > And hopefully, the switch will motivate someone to do the collation :) S> S> Why you need broken somewehere (and broken backward compatibility)? S> Why you don't just adding new login class (russian_utf8)? Right now we've got broken compatibility with the rest of the world. -- Totus tuus, Glebius.