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In-Reply-To: <20210718134409.5e8d545a@archlinux> Message-ID: <14b675f9-a4fd-608f-719c-b26274fcc2b6@gmail.com> References: <20210718134409.5e8d545a@archlinux> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4GSWn72qfwz3Pkk X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=O2MSgioe; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of hruodr@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::32c as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=hruodr@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.93 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; SUBJECT_HAS_EXCLAIM(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_HAS_QUESTION(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::32c:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[94.222.208.162:received]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.93)[0.933]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::32c:from:127.0.2.255]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.997]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::32c:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 17:14:52 -0000 On Sun, 18 Jul 2021, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > I'm not understanding what this "CLIENT ID" is that you are talking > about, if it is not OAuth2. But OAuth2 is not automatic in claws-mail, > and it is not (currently?) necessary for connecting to gmail servers. There is some pressure from google. One must continuously enable "less secure apps", otherwise OAuth2 is the only alternative. R.