From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Oct 4 18:57:46 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF4CE40345 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2017 18:57:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from george+freebsd@m5p.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65C616D944 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2017 18:57:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from george+freebsd@m5p.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 61981E40344; Wed, 4 Oct 2017 18:57:46 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F57DE40343 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2017 18:57:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from george+freebsd@m5p.com) Received: from mailhost.m5p.com (mailhost.m5p.com [207.172.210.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "m5p.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 200C86D943 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2017 18:57:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from george+freebsd@m5p.com) Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:15ff::1f] (haymarket.m5p.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:15ff::1f]) (authenticated bits=0) by mailhost.m5p.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v94IvOQZ014674 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 4 Oct 2017 14:57:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from george+freebsd@m5p.com) Subject: Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc To: sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu, Freddie Cash Cc: FreeBSD Ports Mailing List , "Michael W. Lucas" References: <20171004161649.GA51883@mail.michaelwlucas.com> <20171004171518.GA22519@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20171004181413.GA51148@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> From: George Mitchell Message-ID: <81df6e05-136a-0037-9dba-a7499b7820da@m5p.com> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2017 14:57:08 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20171004181413.GA51148@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="4mrqWnhsK5ti5QevAw7cmW544o8vhSrVN" X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=10.0 tests=HELO_MISC_IP, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mattapan.m5p.com X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (mailhost.m5p.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:15ff::f7]); Wed, 04 Oct 2017 14:57:31 -0400 (EDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2017 18:57:46 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --4mrqWnhsK5ti5QevAw7cmW544o8vhSrVN Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="sO0AE04JxR9WrUr41qX4QALFCcmkv98IK"; protected-headers="v1" From: George Mitchell To: sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu, Freddie Cash Cc: FreeBSD Ports Mailing List , "Michael W. Lucas" Message-ID: <81df6e05-136a-0037-9dba-a7499b7820da@m5p.com> Subject: Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc References: <20171004161649.GA51883@mail.michaelwlucas.com> <20171004171518.GA22519@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20171004181413.GA51148@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <20171004181413.GA51148@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> --sO0AE04JxR9WrUr41qX4QALFCcmkv98IK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 10/04/17 14:14, Steve Kargl wrote: > On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 10:21:26AM -0700, Freddie Cash wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Steve Kargl < >> sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 12:16:49PM -0400, Michael W. Lucas wrote: >>>> >>>> Poudriere really needs its own small book. Yes, you can do simple >>>> poudriere installs, but once you start covering it properly the docs= >>>> quickly expand. My notes alone are longer than my af3e chapter >>>> limits. (I'll probably publish "FreeBSD Packaging Misery^WMastery" i= n >>>> 2018). >>> >>> Please include a discussion on how to use poudriere on >>> a system with limited resouces [...] >> =E2=80=8BPretty sure the standard response will be along the lines of:= =E2=80=8B [...] > Some users cannot afford a 16-core, 32 GB ram, 2TB diskspace box > to simply build ports with custom options. [...] While I agree with you, allow me to insert a gentle reminder that the OP was asking only about whether to include portmaster in his book. I suggest that he should. -- George --sO0AE04JxR9WrUr41qX4QALFCcmkv98IK-- --4mrqWnhsK5ti5QevAw7cmW544o8vhSrVN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEENdM4ZHktsJW5kKZXwRES3m+p4fkFAlnVLxQACgkQwRES3m+p 4fnPrQ/8DlnCUh6UFsr9sLGrwhaYKsBX0YNjkDgAwT84kHhtGet2WgFP4VA0r0jt g6LJQp/Kf41zsgvN66g70zpMDUmGoPjHOR/cU5qdHVpXGWoWa9MU350M0Hr3TUH1 1b6tmbn3mNu/6je1tku1WyQfcoXgtoDWFXJFhfPzEGpXJUxokyJwUFn14R7QaZlB Cg4c3e4fIp9AjTWaS6ywnnEMVhDC8pg5F8aVU8MbFSr62DWFUzw2pyIPRLpZMeDo iKHSp2zq4tdbidwu7EkHlzjEi6vtbD4eiYf3nmEgpgQcvLe0ilDRMXy70X/pl35N GutAiHBtQZ+zWWpYnkWKv/lywvopt8OXswy9Sp8hk3plqpFsPnm5oI7w7DSS/h5U H37BNIV6LMDLB60V2+n2YRM/ypMCHrHzSL7gZmeYmz/wQP60dIfakZQg4RyOMYYZ iB3g+q+9QMgEwgMNmnCuSs64TrTju0RayM60wl5BoB/Qu6kw290zwROd3aWEC4zk 9aHPKlMsEdegdveb1JrQM47Ak7uW5YG7GTA4I/t5HCJtVzTqi6aDhZBPNUp2yW88 XvALbf7vJgyFeT+YiXYs7YTTNf7PyEEictRLnA2MyiGLcSwrZZpR9I3bpv3//P4i yE8DI+FDpn9G3vMWJsp5Rju2Sn5dNgoe40D1oNJSPnpfkDyIqck= =ynZ7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --4mrqWnhsK5ti5QevAw7cmW544o8vhSrVN--