From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 14 09:38:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26CF016A415 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 09:38:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@elvandar.org) Received: from caelis.elvandar.org (caelis.elvandar.org [217.148.169.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D960C43D6E for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 09:38:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from remko@elvandar.org) Received: from localhost (caelis.elvandar.org [217.148.169.59]) by caelis.elvandar.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF8092FE7A; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 11:38:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from caelis.elvandar.org ([217.148.169.59]) by localhost (caelis.elvandar.org [217.148.169.59]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26267-03; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 11:38:21 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4530B020.6070602@elvandar.org> Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 11:38:40 +0200 From: Remko Lodder User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Macintosh/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: waldeck@hk2.uwaterloo.ca References: <20061014092111.7D38D101833@hk2.uwaterloo.ca> In-Reply-To: <20061014092111.7D38D101833@hk2.uwaterloo.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by the elvandar.org maildomain Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/101564: man 4 random has a URL as reference X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 09:38:26 -0000 waldeck@hk2.uwaterloo.ca wrote: > Hi, > >> Synopsis: man 4 random has a URL as reference > >> State-Changed-From-To: open->closed >> State-Changed-By: remko >> State-Changed-When: Fri Oct 13 14:16:30 UTC 2006 >> State-Changed-Why: >> The URL is required to understand the Yarrow protocol, we cannot remove >> that eventhough it requires internet access for this. Closing the PR. >> Facilitated by: Snow B.V. > >> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=101564 > > Did you read the last sentence in my PR? > >>> Scheiers paper explains the algoritm but does not consider the meaning to the variables. > > This is still true! > > Dr. Markus Waldeck Yes well, without it it is impossible to understand it at all. I have verified this with the guy who added the support and he also thinks the reference should stay in. Let me quote the relevant part: " Please don't remove that URL. Messing with the Yarrow algorithm would be a critical and very subtle mistake, and I would not like folks to tackle it without being able to at least find that paper. " It would also become very impractical to import the information into a manual page or something since since it would not become any reasonably sized manual then (information from Ruslan (ru@)). Please feel free to poke the maintainer of the website to correct the information listed there (that information itself is out of our control). Ofcourse I am open to better suggestions, but at the moment the URL will remain in the manual page :) Best regards, remko -- Kind regards, Remko Lodder ** remko@elvandar.org FreeBSD ** remko@FreeBSD.org /* Quis custodiet ipsos custodes */