From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 9 18:06:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA05322 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 18:06:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA05311 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 18:06:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA28268; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 18:05:37 -0800 (PST) To: Greg Lehey cc: Kevin Van Maren , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Swat teams (was: problem reports) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 10 Dec 1998 12:30:02 +1030." <19981210123002.K12688@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 18:05:36 -0800 Message-ID: <28264.913255536@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > This might be a short-sighted viewpoint, especially if you have > Godot's phone number. I tried it - you always get an answering machine with a recorded message saying "I'll call you right back!" > Fine, but I haven't seen it happening. I got a lot of documentation > when I got my commit privileges, but nothing said ``now go and close > your 1000 PRs''. Joining committers is already an exercise which carries a great deal of anxiety for the new member as it is. In all seriousness, I think this would scare a lot of folks into simply running away again. Closing even 10 PRs, much less 1000, can be more work than it appears or people would probably close 10 for fun before breakfast every morning and we wouldn't have a problem at all. > You misunderstand. You (or whoever) don't have to do the work, you > just need to keep an eye on it: in other words, ensure that people > with too little experience or too extreme views don't mishandle PRs. Well, many complained that phk was doing exactly that with his mass-move of PRs to the suspended state so we stopped that, but I haven't exactly seen anything better arise in place of that arrangement yet. I can keep an eye on it until the cows come home and die of old age, but what's that supposed to accomplish most of the time? :-) > That was an example. But I haven't been able to get it to work on my > net for at least 6 months. This is the kind of PR that can be > mishandled: Or too vague to handle at all. ;) Thanks for the excellent example of why many PRs go unclosed and getting into a dialog with each and every such submitter for more information is a scary thing indeed to contemplate when you look at the sheer number of PRs and the depths of cluelessness represented in some of them... - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message